The proper category for Rush ?

2112 got extensive radio airplay on the then-new FM radio, which helped to break the "3 minute ceiling" of AM radio songs. That's how Rush got famous (that and well-deserved live reputation). Spirit of Radio (which mocks radio and sellouts) came later. Working man didn't get played until 2112 broke the band. Ten minute songs did get played. DSOTM was played in its entirety. I'm sure CTTE got played. Sure, Hold Your Fire is terrible, but the rest Signals and Grace Under Pressure were as strong as their previous efforts, and the lyrics remain some of Neil's best. Just because Yes released Tales doesn't make them better. Personally I can't stand Tales; it is to Yes what Works is to ELP: a pompous show off album.

As much as they belong there, heavy prog relies on Rush because the whole point of heavy prog is it's influence on prog metal. If Rush goes, then the whole subgenre needs to go.

schizoid_man77 wrote: Tales is beautiful, Wakeman left because Tales didnt show him off enough.   I'm not saying Rush is any less respectable because they got more radio airplay then Yes, but I dont believe they belong in a genre full of hardcore prog bands (except atomic rooster), when there is the crossover prog that easily suites Rush. Just read the description for crossover.

To be honest, I'm not sure who belongs where right now. I'm giving it a few weeks for the AR team to sort this mess out. Right now it seems nearly ever band in crossover should be in eclectic, but then that defeats the purpose of dividing AR. Whatever, someone smarter than me will deal with it.

Haha, Rush owns the Heavy Prog top albums. We should just create a whole new subcategory called "Rush".

schizoid_man77 wrote: No   I'm saying that Rush insnt like Yes, because Yes only had ONE signal (which they didnt even mean to make), then turned they're back on radio. While Rush always sticked with radio, therefore not as "hardcore prog" as Yes.

sorry, but I have to comment on this. Yes had "ONE" single? How about Owner of a Lonely Heart? I've Seen All Good People? Starship Trooper? They had plenty of other singles released as well (check out the discography).
 
 - Just to back-up the point that radio play "means nothing" about a band's progressiveness.

ClassicRocker wrote: schizoid_man77 wrote: No   I'm saying that Rush insnt like Yes, because Yes only had ONE signal (which they didnt even mean to make), then turned they're back on radio. While Rush always sticked with radio, therefore not as "hardcore prog" as Yes. sorry, but I have to comment on this. Yes had "ONE" single? How about Owner of a Lonely Heart? I've Seen All Good People? Starship Trooper? They had plenty of other singles released as well (check out the discography).    - Just to back-up the point that radio play "means nothing" about a band's progressiveness.

Arsillus wrote: Haha, Rush owns the Heavy Prog top albums. We should just create a whole new subcategory called "Rush".

Hear, hear!

MajesterX wrote: I could care less what Rush is called. Prog, Rock, Classic Rock, Hard Rock.

See above!

They would fit fine in crossover (now, this does not mean that they weren't progressive, just more radio friendly!), but they fit too perfectly in heavy prog to be anything else.

Melomaniac wrote: Taken from the definition of Eclectic Prog :   "Eclectic Prog combines hybrids of style and diversity of theme, promoting many elements from different sources. The Eclectic category recognizes bands that evolved markedly over their career (in a progressive, evolutionary way), or have a plural style without a clear referential core."   I think this definition more than suits Rush's career, therefore Rush should be in this category.   Who else agrees ?   Thanks !

"heavy prog" is the appropriate place for Rush