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Poll Question: Jazz or Classical?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 13:12
i went with jazz, but i, too, love classical
 
btw this topic could get ugly...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 13:19
someone put a classical sub genre list. so ill type out a jazz one
 
bebop
cool jazz
swing
avant-garde jazz
free jazz
hard bop
traditional
jazz-fusion
jazz-funk
rock-jazz
dixieland
latin jazz
modal jazz
acid jazz
smooth jazz (as much as i hate to include it in such a list)
jazz blues
gypsy jazz
bossa nova
calypso jazz
and so on and so on.........
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 14:58
I much prefer jazz influenced music like early MAGMA and ZAO to the classical flavour.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 16:33
I like both, but i have to go with classical. my favourite is the romantic era, although i do really admire the freedom jazz can offer. however, much of classical music revolved around improv, and composers like beethoven and bach were both renowned for their improvisational skills. i feel that it is mainly classical purists nowadays that put the restraints on what defines classical.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 16:42
Love em both but classical music is the highest form of human expression.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 16:45
Originally posted by sinkadotentree sinkadotentree wrote:

I much prefer jazz influenced music like early MAGMA

Yes but after the first 2 albums, the jazz left almost entirely. It was only at Udu Wudu and Attahk that traces of it returned.

MDK, Wurdah Itah, Khontarkosz, and K.A (to a lesser degree) were all EXTREMELY influeced by 20th Century classical music.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 17:23
Classical and Jazz were both two of my first loves in music, and currently I'm mainly a classical musician but I still venture into jazz occasionally and would like to play more of it.
That being said, I voted classical. I prefer mainly modern, 20th century and romantic classical. The energy of many pieces that involve several hundred people playing is difficult to match with 3-10 jazz musicians, and I prefer the concrete sense of direction and concept that classical music displays for the listener. I still like jazz very much, but Coltrane and Davis haven't impacted me as much as Shostakovitch and Vaughan Williams have. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 17:27
i love them both, but I have to say classical.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 17:31
Originally posted by Shakespeare Shakespeare wrote:

First of all, this is not a prog poll.
Originally posted by King Crimson776 King Crimson776 wrote:

I think that there are some classical pieces that beat any jazz, but overall jazz is better (like a random jazz song is better than a random classical piece more often)
What is that supposed to mean? If you picked a classical song out of a hat, it would be worse than any jazz song you picked out of a hat more often? How can you follow that as a rule? And that is 100% subjective.


Jazz and Classical are related to prog, and Prog Related is a bonified sub-genre on this website, so the poll is fine here, get the stick outta yer ass.

And that a random jazz piece is usually better than a classical piece is my opinion, I don't mean it as something that should be understood, I was just clarifying that I think jazz is better overall. Don't be so literal, aight?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 17:36
Originally posted by yesman1972 yesman1972 wrote:

Love em both but classical music is the highest form of human expression.


"Classical music is a dead fish" - Brian Eno

"Jazz isn't dead, it just smells funny" - Frank Zappa


Edited by King Crimson776 - November 28 2007 at 17:52
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 19:13
i love classical and have a hard time getting into jazz.  There's some jazz i like, but classical wins out by a lot for me.  Brucker's Symphony 8 is better than any prog epic i've heard
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 19:24
Originally posted by yesman1972 yesman1972 wrote:

Love em both but classical music is the highest form of human expression.
 
I think improvisation is the highest form of human expression. I don't think you can reach a very high level of human expression by reading a sheet of paper.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 19:26
That's subjective.

The melody could be out of this world, and incredibly expressive.

And the improv. might sound silly and disjointed.

Ya never know...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 19:35
tis true
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 22:04
Flip a coin on this one. I like both. Both have their good and bad.

Classical - Beethoven,Bach,Brahms,Mozart.

Jazz - Miles,Coltrane,Mingus.....

Good question.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2007 at 23:24

I vote jazz.

Both are enjoyable, but I find I really need to be in a certain mood for classical while I can enjoy jazz almost anytime... but that's just me...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2007 at 01:19
Can't decide. Voted jazz to even things out.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2007 at 01:42
Originally posted by MajesterX MajesterX wrote:

Classical and Jazz were both two of my first loves in music, and currently I'm mainly a classical musician but I still venture into jazz occasionally and would like to play more of it.
That being said, I voted classical. I prefer mainly modern, 20th century and romantic classical. The energy of many pieces that involve several hundred people playing is difficult to match with 3-10 jazz musicians, and I prefer the concrete sense of direction and concept that classical music displays for the listener. I still like jazz very much, but Coltrane and Davis haven't impacted me as much as Shostakovitch and Vaughan Williams have. 

Can I ask - what instrument do you play, and what prog do you like?   I'm asking because I am curious how and why a classical musician likes prog.    I'm not saying that they shouldn't  - I happen to think that prog is just as valid a musical form as classical or jazz - but the impression one gets is that classical musicians are too snobbish to enjoy a popular music form like prog.      
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2007 at 01:49
I went with classical mainly for Minimalism, but I really enjoy most all modern forms of classical music, and in reality I can enjoy most any kind of classical music (except Opera...).  I also can enjoy jazz a lot.  I can listen to either but I do listen to classical (mostly minimalism) a lot more than jazz.

wes montgomery is great though...but so is steve reich...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2007 at 03:30
Originally posted by King Crimson776 King Crimson776 wrote:

Originally posted by Shakespeare Shakespeare wrote:

First of all, this is not a prog poll.
Originally posted by King Crimson776 King Crimson776 wrote:

I think that there are some classical pieces that beat any jazz, but overall jazz is better (like a random jazz song is better than a random classical piece more often)
What is that supposed to mean? If you picked a classical song out of a hat, it would be worse than any jazz song you picked out of a hat more often? How can you follow that as a rule? And that is 100% subjective.


Jazz and Classical are related to prog, and Prog Related is a bonified sub-genre on this website, so the poll is fine here, get the stick outta yer ass.

And that a random jazz piece is usually better than a classical piece is my opinion, I don't mean it as something that should be understood, I was just clarifying that I think jazz is better overall. Don't be so literal, aight?
bit rude dont you think ? Shocked


Edited by Yorkie X - November 29 2007 at 03:35
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