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Queen By-Tor ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 13 2006 Location: Xanadu Status: Offline Points: 16111 |
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I'm surprised that no one brought that up yet more than I'm surprised he's not there
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Plankowner ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 09 2008 Location: Florida Status: Offline Points: 4006 |
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Daniel Gildenlow fits. |
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ProgBagel ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: May 13 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2819 |
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Gildenlow bar none.
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el böthy ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: April 27 2005 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 6336 |
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Whaaaaat? No James Labrie?
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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The Crow ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: November 16 2005 Location: Spain Status: Offline Points: 77 |
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I think that every singer in this list surpases James LaBrie in terms of vocal versatility... Though I love Dream Theater! |
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b_olariu ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: March 02 2007 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 5653 |
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Russell Allen from your list follow closely by Dan Swano.
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sleeper ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 09 2005 Location: Entropia Status: Offline Points: 16449 |
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I think Labrie is a good singer, but he's not that versatile. |
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21884 |
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I also wouldn't call Akerfeldt a versatile singer ... he switches between two distinctly different styles, but Gildenlow uses like half a dozen.
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darksideof ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 22 2007 Location: Newark N.J. Status: Offline Points: 2318 |
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Agree!! and in his early days he used to scream like Bloody Mary!
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The Crow ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: November 16 2005 Location: Spain Status: Offline Points: 77 |
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In my opinion, Akerfeldt makes more than switch between growl and mellow singing... Through the years, his clean vocals have improved very much, giving his singing a lot of textures and changes. This is more evident in "Watershed", where he even "break" his usually cristal clear mellow vocals, in songs like Burden or Hessian Peel. His double vocal harmonies are also very good, specially in the last Opeth release... And in The Lotus Eater, he has some surprising high-pitched voices. This is the reason I included him in this poll! Of course, in the first Opeth releases, his vocals were not so diverse. Speaking about Gildenlow... I'm agree with you, he is incredibly versatile, and his vocal range is huge. But he sings almost the same in every Pain of Salvation album. Maybe in BE, he experimented with new vocal sounds... But if you hear "Entropia", and "Scarsick" later (apart from the caress of quality the last has...) you will realize he sings not really different. This is the reason my vote goes clearly to Devin Townsend... His singing is different in every album he has made, and his vocal range in just awesome. He can create every type of growl (from brutal death to black metal...), and his clean vocals have an incredible range, with nothing to envy the Gildenlow's one. In my opinion, Townsend is the most versatile singer in metal today. Best regards! |
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21884 |
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^ still, Gildenlow has recorded theatralic parts, rap parts, extreme whining/whispering and falsetto screams within 2 octave intervals. Things which Akerfeldt hasn't done ... which is no problem for me, this thread is about versatility and not about how much we enjoy the vocals.
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StyLaZyn ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 22 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4079 |
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I can not believe that Russell Allen is doing so poorly. Have any of you really listened to him sing? This guy has an amazing voice and range. Not that the other guys are bad, but Allen is light years beyond them in ability.
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21884 |
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^ He's my favorite metal singer, but not as versatile as Gildenlow. First and foremost he's a "metal shouter", but within that domain he has an amazing bandwidth of expression.
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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Labrie is my favorite singer... but that doesn't mean I think he's so versatile.. I just put versatility in a singer very low in my list ofd requirements.... But again, Labrie is not that versatile... He sings melody very well, he sings metal very well.. but don't aski him to get violent, or to "rap" (that would be a disgrace and an embarrasment....
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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I don't agree Allen is a "shouter". He still manages to sing, though he also shouts at the same time.... For true shouters, I guess we can go to the atrocious "singers" in most metal-tech-whatever-core bands like Dillinger Escape Plan... those people don't sing at all, don't growl, they just shout... IMO
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StyLaZyn ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 22 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4079 |
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I have to agree. How one can consider growling singing is something I just can't come to grips with. If someone could burp sing effectively, would that make them a good singer? I've listened to plenty of Riverside, Opeth, and PoS. Still, Allen is eons vocally better to my ears. He exhibits a tremendous range, low to high. Only in the recent SX albums has he given in to the new vocal metal style, which I think does no justice to him. The earlier albums are the best examples.
This isn't about popularity of singers, or is it?
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BroSpence ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 05 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2614 |
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Maynard Maynardson.
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21884 |
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I know what you're trying to say. On my website I introduced two different tags: "shouting" and "screaming". I know this might seem to be an odd distinction, but consider this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screamo It describes exactly what the Dillinger Escape Plan vocalist is doing. On the other hand, you often hear metal vocalists being described as "shouters". I think the most iconic shouter is Ronnie James Dio. Shouting is very close to (clean) singing - it's still very melodic - but more pressure is applied and the voice becomes more "sharp" and - depending on the vocalist - a good deal of "grit" is added (for example listen to Russell Allen on The Odyssey). I should write a wikipedia entry about these vocal styles! ![]() Edited by MikeEnRegalia - June 19 2008 at 03:23 |
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StyLaZyn ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 22 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4079 |
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I find it very interesting that RJD was a shouter. Sure at times I can see this, but his vocal control put him somewhere between opera and pure pop (boy band) vocals. The 80's vocalists really seemed to go after this quality, especially with the Hair Metal genre. Another fine example of fantastic quality vocals is Geoff Tate of QR.
Shouter? I consider Henry Rollins closer to a shouter (i.e. Liar). He did not have a very controlled singing voice. In fact, he was not much of a singer, IMO. Devin Townsend bridged the singer-shouter. He could sing, but also chose to shout lyrics.
This said, Allen is near to never a shouter. He does have a ballsy quality. Super machismo type vocals. Like I mentioned, the more recent releases he abandons for the most part, his vocal style that proved his superiority in Symph/Metal Prog, and it extended beyond that. Comparing him to some of Prog's top vocalists should be strongly considered. The other choices in the list, not so much.
I am not a big fan of LaBrie, however, he also should not be discounted. His trained voice is obviously one that needs to be highlighted in the records as one of Prog's best.
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sleeper ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: October 09 2005 Location: Entropia Status: Offline Points: 16449 |
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I agree that Allen has a huge range, though I think Gildenlow matches it (certainly he comes close at least) but this poll is about versatility, and you need more than just a an inhuman range. Its why I didnt consider Allen, though I think he's a great singer I dont find him particulalry versatile, while I think growling is the only thing DG hasnt done, and he's come close to that on Beyond the Pale. |
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