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Figglesnout 
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 Posted: July 03 2008 at 11:29 |
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I listened to In/Casino/Out again last night, and I think it's wonderful. raw and wonderful. Opens with 4 great songs and ends with 4 better ones. The middle few songs are kind of 'eh', but the album is so short that it hardly suffers from this. Relationship of Command is the king of ATDI albums bar none, however.
I wonder what another album by this great band would've sounded like, after the huge leap into Relationship. The songs are so much more complex on that album than on really anything else they've done...you can't help but wonder if these guys would've molded themselves into a De-loused era TMV, or if the direction would've suddenly turned less progressive...
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mithrandir
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Posted: July 03 2008 at 14:48 |
I actually perfer ATDI to Mars Volta, and Sparta is just awful, sorry, 
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Figglesnout
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Posted: July 03 2008 at 14:50 |
 mithrandir wrote:
I actually perfer ATDI to Mars Volta, and Sparta is just awful, sorry, |
I agree with everything you just said in this post. Although I think De-loused and FTM are GREAT albums, due to their recent output, I think that TMV < ATDI.
Oh, and yes, Sparta is awful.
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: July 03 2008 at 15:11 |
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Didn't these jokers steal the name from a Poison lyric?
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Avantgardehead
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Posted: July 03 2008 at 15:14 |
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I've heard Acrobatic Tenement all the way through and I absolutely loved it. I have their other two and I'm making an effort to hear both in their entirety.
Also, this thread reminded me to check out Sparta again since I loved "While Oceana Sleeps"...
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Figglesnout
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Posted: July 03 2008 at 15:25 |
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
Didn't these jokers steal the name from a Poison lyric?
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Yes they did 
Avantgardehead wrote:
I've heard Acrobatic Tenement all the way through and I absolutely loved it. I have their other two and I'm making an effort to hear both in their entirety.Also, this thread reminded me to check out Sparta again since I loved "While Oceana Sleeps"...
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You should get listening, since Acrobatic Tenement is my definite least favorite, and I think generally is considered their worst. Most people, including myself, don't even like it. Which is good that you did, because I'd say you have quite the treat awaiting your ears with Vaya, In/Casino/Out and Relationship of Command. 
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: July 03 2008 at 17:47 |
The Antique wrote:
mithrandir wrote:
I actually perfer ATDI to Mars Volta, and Sparta is just awful, sorry, |
I agree with everything you just said in this post. Although I think De-loused and FTM are GREAT albums, due to their recent output, I think that TMV < ATDI.
Oh, and yes, Sparta is awful. |
I disagree with all of this. One song off of either of TMV's first two albums is better than ATDI's entire output, despite how good their last two albums were. Also, even though Amputecture and Bedlam just aren't as glorious as De-Loued or Frances, they are both still great albums.
Also, I think Sparta's first two full-lengths are pretty good. The new album was really weak, though.
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Figglesnout
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Posted: July 03 2008 at 18:35 |
^^Opinions opinions, eh?
I personally think that Relationship of Command bests most of De-loused, or least is comparable in quality, but I think that FTM is just a tad better than Relationship.
If Amp weren't so bad (to me), and Bedlam not so lackluster/disappointing (to me), then TMV would definitely take the cake here.
But due to both opinion and the magic of nostalgia, I listen to ATDI way more than I do to TMV lately, and I consider myself to enjoy ATDI output more than TMV output as of late. Could change though, who knows.
Sparta does suck though 
But then the reason for all of this could be that I like In/Casino/Out waaaaay more than you do, and you like Amp and Bedlam more than I do...that creates an obvious schism...
Edited by The Antique - July 03 2008 at 18:37
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: July 03 2008 at 19:43 |
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My older sister first introduced me to the band, and she always hated Invalid Litter Dept, but I thought it was an amazing song.
Any other opinions on Invalid Litter Dept?
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Figglesnout
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Posted: July 03 2008 at 20:12 |
HughesJB4 wrote:
My older sister first introduced me to the band, and she always hated Invalid Litter Dept, but I thought it was an amazing song.Any other opinions on Invalid Litter Dept?
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It's my favorite ATDI song I think. Definitely one of them...
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: July 04 2008 at 01:19 |
^Definitely a great song. I love the "dancing on the corspes ashes" and then the rock explosion!
My favorite ATDI song is almost definitely "Cosmonaut."
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Figglesnout
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Posted: July 04 2008 at 12:14 |
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^^Cosmonaut is also a great one. Every song of Relationship is a winner to me. From the opening clicks of Arcarsenal (ATDI at their angriest, intense and amazing) to the closing fuzz of Non-Zero Possibility, it's all amazing.
And the two bonus tracks (Extracurricular and Catacombs) are both great as well--especially the former, which I often see as the closer-proper over Non-Zero.
It's just a f**king great album!
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: July 04 2008 at 18:06 |
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Figglesnout
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Posted: July 04 2008 at 21:45 |
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BroSpence
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Posted: July 06 2008 at 00:48 |
The Antique wrote:
Acrobatic Tenement is the album that sucked |
NAH MAN! Acrobatic Tenement was great. They were young, spastic and had no money. Its a perfect recording of youth, rage, and good times.
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Figglesnout
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Posted: July 06 2008 at 12:01 |
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: July 09 2008 at 14:04 |
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I has your cub
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avalanchemaster
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Posted: July 09 2008 at 14:27 |
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yep. good stuff.
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Philéas
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Posted: July 11 2008 at 16:24 |
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About time something like this happened here. I consider them my favourite band. My favourite album is In/Casino/Out, followed by Acrobatic Tenement and their earlier EPs. Relationship of Command is less interesting to me. Sounds too modern, too much like all the sh*t bands these days trying to rip off that sound with horrible results.
Fans of earlier stuff (pre-Vaya/Relationship) should check out Cap'n Jazz and Drive Like Jehu, and maybe also The Hal al Shedad.
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: July 12 2008 at 02:36 |
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^Ah yes. I used to be into Cap'n Jazz.
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