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Posted: August 25 2008 at 18:48

So Darkshade when we begin Jazz Archives??

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Posted: August 25 2008 at 18:50

BTW and Off topic Micky again thanks for the Capability Brown addition

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Posted: August 25 2008 at 18:53

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BTW and Off topic Micky again thanks for the Capability Brown addition

no problem .. that was my pleasure... LOVE that album, Voice... in fact... had that on the mp3 player today and was air-bassing and singing to my coworkers eternal amusement.

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Posted: August 25 2008 at 20:39

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Thanks Darkshade, and I second your motion of Zawinul as next. I think you helped with the Miles Davis additions, so you know there is a lot of work to be done before we go much further.

o yea of course. I am in full agreement for Zawinul, Young, and Shorter. I see we're going for more of the original jazz-rockers which makes sense. Has anyone heard the Zawinul Syndicate?? what a fantastic band

after that, I would love to see Steve Jenkins here. He's a little obscure, unless you're in the NYC tri-state area and know a lot of obscure jazz musicians. He also only has one album, but I rank it in my top 20 best jazz-rock albums ever!

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So Darkshade when we begin Jazz Archives??

ugh, i would love to do this, and it seemed to have great support in the thread I started about it, but we'd still need someone who knows how to start up a site. I know close to nothing on that. But once we had something going, I'd spend a good amount of time making it one of the best sites (after this one of course Wink

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Posted: August 25 2008 at 20:55

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lol ... today I was browsing through the jazz vinyl section of my favorite local record store ... from there I remember many of the suggestions here. Well, jazzarchives it is then. Wink

lol ... today I was browsing through the metal CD's section of my favorite local record store ... from there I remember many of the suggestions here. Well, metalarchives it is then. Wink

Artists like Wayne Shorter and Herbie Hancock has made music in different genres during their careers lasting for about 50 years each. Jazz is still the natural section for them, even for their jazzrock-fusion albums. Most often I find Weather Report, Return to Forever, Mahavishnu Orchestra, sometimes even Canterbury bands in recordstores jazzsection as well.

Btw. Where did you find Jamiroquai? In the jazz or prog-section?

Edited by Rocktopus - August 25 2008 at 22:44

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Posted: August 25 2008 at 23:19

I'll say once again that Keith Jarrett should be considered as well, particularly for his '70's solo concert recordings. These recordings are stunning displays of not just his chops as a keyboard player, but his assimilation of an incredible breadth of musical forms.

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Posted: August 26 2008 at 05:40

Joke suggestion: Frank Sinatra
Serious Suggestion: The Friendly Bears

TFB have backed Kayo Dot on several occasions. They're pretty awesome!

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Posted: August 26 2008 at 06:54

Rocktopus wrote:

lol ... today I was browsing through the metal CD's section of my favorite local record store ... from there I remember many of the suggestions here. Well, metalarchives it is then. Wink

Touché. Well, it was meant as a joke anyway ... I have yet to find a music store which actually has a prog department. Embarrassed

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Artists like Wayne Shorter and Herbie Hancock has made music in different genres during their careers lasting for about 50 years each. Jazz is still the natural section for them, even for their jazzrock-fusion albums. Most often I find Weather Report, Return to Forever, Mahavishnu Orchestra, sometimes even Canterbury bands in recordstores jazzsection as well.

Btw. Where did you find Jamiroquai? In the jazz or prog-section?

Of course Jamiroquai always ends up in Pop/Rock ... just like Yes, Genesis and Van der Graaf Generator. But if you listen to his music with open ears, especially the first two albums, it should be obvious that it's Jazz-Fusion/Funk inspired heavily by the bands from the 70s which are being discussed now. Granted, he also made quite a few pop singles and you won't find many long tracks on his albums ... but the music is pretty advanced, as are the players.

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Posted: August 26 2008 at 07:16

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Joke suggestion: Frank Sinatra

Just a follow up on your joke suggestion, not about to suggest anything myself. Frank Sinatra actually made several concept albums. My favorite is the achingly beautiful and melancholic Watertown

Btw. The earliest fullblown, and one of the most successfull conceptalbums I know of is Lee Hazelwood: Trouble is a Lonesome Town from 63.

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Posted: August 26 2008 at 16:25

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Touché. Well, it was meant as a joke anyway ... I have yet to find a music store which actually has a prog department. Embarrassed

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Posted: August 28 2008 at 20:57

wow this thread died. any word on if these artists are being added?

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Posted: August 28 2008 at 21:02

sorry man.... got caught up in some stuff and didn't follow through on this.....I'll make sure those 3 suggestions get passed to Richard and Martin.

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Posted: August 28 2008 at 21:03

darkshade wrote:

MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Touché. Well, it was meant as a joke anyway ... I have yet to find a music store which actually has a prog department. Embarrassed

Vintage Vinyl in Fords, NJ

not to mention EVERY music store in Italy Heart

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Posted: August 28 2008 at 21:05

aah i would love to visit Italy and check out their music stores (and their cuisine!!)

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Posted: August 28 2008 at 21:25

oh yeah... love the album stores there.. even the chain stores... the mom and pop places there?... oh nelly...and yeah... the cuisine... let's just say that since Raff and I met... have only been to Olive Garden once.. and that was with her to show her our take on Italian cooking LOL

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Posted: August 28 2008 at 21:59

Yeah Darkshade, you should visit Italy, it is way cool.

Wow, it is so nice and mellow over here, cool place to hang out. Can you believe David's (Atavachron) attempt to celebrate a little piece of history brought out such rabid responses from some people, that we couldn't have a little bipartisan chat ... actually I'm not suprised at all, I'm sure there is plenty more where that came from, on here and elsewhere.

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Posted: August 28 2008 at 22:05

I know.... had a bit of a PM conversation about that hahhaha. That was a shame about David's thread... it is history we are watching... and I am quite proud to have be seeing it. Shame not everyone can appreciate it ...like him or not.

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Posted: August 28 2008 at 22:45

I'm no Obama fan-boy anymore than I am a devotee of any politician, but as an old guy from the southern part of the states, you just have to appreciate what is going on here.

Don't worry we will get this thread back on semi-official jazz rock proposalisms soon enough, but I thought this might be a safe place for a quick exchange before they bring out the water hoses and german shepards again ... ha ha ha, just kidding folks.

Anyway, it looks like Darkshade, Roctapus and myself will hammer out the new jazz-rock proposals through heated and often bitter debate, while we give Micky clandestine ciggerettes to act as our go between to the head wardens, Martin and Dick, while David pays occaisonal visits to impart vague and possibly dubious spiritual advice.

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Posted: August 28 2008 at 23:09

hahhahahha.. sounds like a plan...

hahhaha.. well my quick post before going on topic.. hell.. this is my thread anyway hahah. I was a Hillary supporter till the primaries when I saw if she couldn't run a good campaign.. she sure as hell couldn't run a country. The more I looked a Obama the more I was impressed... and tonight I was highly impressed with his speech. There was a time that might have supported McCain... because I do have a high amount of respect for him as person. Yet lost it when he kissed the ass of those who blistered him in the 2000 primaries. So much for being a maverick. The main thing is though... His policies ... like his party... are completely out of touch with those who make less than 6 figures a year. Never understood why a working person would ever vote right... they sure as hell don't care about you. Oh well

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'ENOUGH' yep.... exactly...

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Posted: August 30 2008 at 02:06

darkshade wrote:

aah i would love to visit Italy and check out their music stores (and their cuisine!!)

And the women!!! Wink