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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2006 at 11:25

Originally posted by KazimirMajorinc KazimirMajorinc wrote:

Bijelo Dugme, of course. There is no point in listening Yu rock and not starting with Bijelo Dugme since they are the most popular rock band, kinda Yu Beatles and great deal of the rock is done using them as a referent point. Their music has lot of folk and symphonic, space and punk elements can be found as well. In fact, their music has so much folk that because of that they are considered commercial in Yugoslavia, i.e. environment where that kind of folk is much more popular than rock. In other environment folk elements actually make their music look less commercial. Go here and download "Kad bi bio bijelo dugme", and tell me what do you think - and that's only the beginning of their story.

Also Indexi, Galija are not mentioned here yet.


Yu Beatles?Ah.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2006 at 12:01

Nice to see a thread about Yu prog scene!

Yugoslavia was a hotbed for rock music,especialy in the early 80s with so called new wave bands with a really rich scene in entire Ex-Yu .In the 60s and 70s we saw birth of many rock bands like Indexi(the most long living band in history of rock),  but those were mainly popish(still Indexi are one of the all time best rock band in Ex-Yu,along with Time) ,commercial rock bands ,meant for everybody.It was hard to playing progressive music at that time,many groups were called progressive but few of them were it really.Altough,it is very recomanded to check bands listed on this site,a lot of uknown gems to find.My two favorites are TAKO(instrumental symphonic prog) and Igra Staklenih Perli(Psychedelic)both from Belgrade.Also i recommend Macedonian Leb i Sol and Folk Prog from Zagreb called Drugi Nacin.After the 70s prog just fell out of the scene,like everywhere else i guess.After that there were no more prog bands in Yugoslavia.Back in few months i discovered a new Belgrade Post-Rock band called Virvel ,a nice discovery!Hope they ll be added on this site soon.But its hard to survive due to the unpopularity of prog music in Serbia...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2006 at 15:47
Will try to resurect our Rock 'n' Roll brother
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2006 at 17:52

Originally posted by Livnica Livnica wrote:

R.M.Tocak band is TEK.With David Moss percussionist and guests from Yugoslavia and from other parts of world who play jazz,funk,rock

Thanks, never heard that. Sounds interesting...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2006 at 18:10
Originally posted by Livnica Livnica wrote:

Originally posted by KazimirMajorinc KazimirMajorinc wrote:

Bijelo Dugme, of course. There is no point in listening Yu rock and not starting with Bijelo Dugme since they are the most popular rock band, kinda Yu Beatles and great deal of the rock is done using them as a referent point. Their music has lot of folk and symphonic, space and punk elements can be found as well. In fact, their music has so much folk that because of that they are considered commercial in Yugoslavia, i.e. environment where that kind of folk is much more popular than rock. In other environment folk elements actually make their music look less commercial. Go here and download "Kad bi bio bijelo dugme", and tell me what do you think - and that's only the beginning of their story.

Also Indexi, Galija are not mentioned here yet.


Yu Beatles?Ah.

It is probably an overstatement to compare them to the Beatles, except for the huge popularity and a sort of "mania" they created across the entire country.

But, prog or not, love it or hate it, BIJELO DUGME is surely an important Yugoslavian phenomenon and true sort of reference point for all other rock music in exYU.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2006 at 10:29
yes a phenomenon!But considering how most of Yugo-slavonic people are stupid ,than it isn't phenomenon.But that i think will change as the time passis by...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2006 at 23:24

Originally posted by Livnica Livnica wrote:

yes a phenomenon!But considering how most of Yugo-slavonic people are stupid ,than it isn't phenomenon.But that i think will change as the time passis by...

Not all are stupid. Take us here for example...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2006 at 07:02
Originally posted by Seyo Seyo wrote:

Originally posted by Livnica Livnica wrote:

yes a phenomenon!But considering how most of Yugo-slavonic people are stupid ,than it isn't phenomenon.But that i think will change as the time passis by...

Not all are stupid. Take us here for example...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2006 at 03:26

While I am not sure whether Stefanovski (famous lead guitar of LEB I SOL fusion folk virtuosos) solo albums belong here, since his name is on category 2 on the master list, I can add his bio and discography, if there is no objections.

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http://www.vlatkostefanovski.com.mk/

I'll wait a week or two for responses.

Cheers, Seyo

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Above is an old post that so far nobodyy replied to. Please I would like your opinion cause I guess not many international people know about Vlatko. I don' t know well his solo career. Do you think it deserves to be added here and to which sub-genre (prog folk, or fusion or Prog related...?)
Thanks everyone  for advice! Ermm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2006 at 07:34
well if TOcak belongs here then Stefanovski really belongs here.So put him here
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2006 at 06:58
Stefanovski has been added here:
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Please, everyone who is familiar with his albums is more than welcome to write reviews, since I do not own any of his recordings, apart from several individual songs. Unhappy
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2006 at 16:40
Please check this excellent blog, with lots of wonderful Yugo prog music available for download...
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2006 at 16:45
Originally posted by yupressings yupressings wrote:

Dear fellow members.

As a member of this forum from Croatia which is former Yugoslavian republic I recommend all  prog rock bands from former Yugoslavia like:

1.Time:  Time 1 (1972) + Time 2 (1974)  from art to hard prog great arrangments and vocals.

2. Drugi Nacin/Nepocin - Albums Drugi Nacin (1975),  Svijet po kojem gazim(1977) under the name Nepocin.  HArd prog with flutes and high pitched vocals- 1st LP is between J.Tull, Wishbone Ash (Argus) and Deep Purple with Gillan- 2nd LP inder the different name is great Hard Prog LP with nice guitar and flutes work.

3. Yu Grupa  -1st  and 2nd - POwerul trio combination of hard  and folk rock in Balkan way.

4.Korni Grupa- 1st LP (1972), Not an ordinary life (1974), Mrtvo More (1975), 1941 (1979) .   Long tracks- complex arrangments- brilliant musicians-original approach.

5.Folk prog bands  like Trio Dag, Porodicna Manufaktura,Sedmina,  Kladivo Konj In Voda and Tomaz Pengov.

6.Many others like   heavy psych of IGRA STAKLENIH PERLI , or  BULDOZER

   DAH, IZVIR, OPUS, POP MASINA,  SMAK, TAKO and many others.

Have a nice day.

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Hell, I'm already came back to my holydays in Histria and searched there for some good croatian prog with no success!!!!!!! What a disappointment!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2006 at 16:46
Originally posted by yupressings yupressings wrote:

 

Yes, Tako has 2 albums   Tako 1 (1978)  i "U vreci za spavanje"(1979) both  fully progressive with dominated organs and melotrons-slightly sympho fusion overtones.

KOrnelyans is ENGLISH name for Korni grupa which they used on "Not an ordinary life" LP which has been issued nad recorded in ITALY and sung with English lyrics.

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We have been dealing in Symphonic with a lot of good Yugoslavian bands, some of them have been moved to other genres like Folk because of the powerful ethnic sound that we (As a team) believe is necesary to take care of.
 
Good Symphonic bands we have a lot, but good Yugoslavian Folk bands very few.
 
In this moment in the Collaborators Section is being debated the case of Tako, great band, but to be honest they should pay royalties to Pink Floyd Wink
 
Not a clone but clearly derivative, for example "U vreci za Spavanje" is almost exact to Shine On You Crazy Diamond's" intro with extra piano.
 
Most surely will be found since next Friday or Saturday in the Psyche-Space Prog section.
 
Some time ago we had to deal with KORNI GRUPA KORNELYANS that was also in Symphonic, but after listening their music and in coordination with the Fusion Team we decided to move them to Prog Fusion, still is there.
 
Keep on with this feedback,. there's outstanding Prog in the former Yugoslavia.
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2006 at 17:21
Originally posted by Andrea Cortese Andrea Cortese wrote:

Originally posted by yupressings yupressings wrote:

Dear fellow members.

As a member of this forum from Croatia which is former Yugoslavian republic I recommend all  prog rock bands from former Yugoslavia like:

1.Time:  Time 1 (1972) + Time 2 (1974)  from art to hard prog great arrangments and vocals.

2. Drugi Nacin/Nepocin - Albums Drugi Nacin (1975),  Svijet po kojem gazim(1977) under the name Nepocin.  HArd prog with flutes and high pitched vocals- 1st LP is between J.Tull, Wishbone Ash (Argus) and Deep Purple with Gillan- 2nd LP inder the different name is great Hard Prog LP with nice guitar and flutes work.

3. Yu Grupa  -1st  and 2nd - POwerul trio combination of hard  and folk rock in Balkan way.

4.Korni Grupa- 1st LP (1972), Not an ordinary life (1974), Mrtvo More (1975), 1941 (1979) .   Long tracks- complex arrangments- brilliant musicians-original approach.

5.Folk prog bands  like Trio Dag, Porodicna Manufaktura,Sedmina,  Kladivo Konj In Voda and Tomaz Pengov.

6.Many others like   heavy psych of IGRA STAKLENIH PERLI , or  BULDOZER

   DAH, IZVIR, OPUS, POP MASINA,  SMAK, TAKO and many others.

Have a nice day.

Mike

 
Hell, I'm already came back to my holydays in Histria and searched there for some good croatian prog with no success!!!!!!! What a disappointment!!!
 
Ah, Andrea if you could not find any prog CDs in that part of Croatia, I doubt there is any chance to find it in any other former Yugoslavian country. We are talking about history, mainly 1970s, so everybody around here loves to hate all that was connected with Socialist Yugoslavia, including prog rock, unfortunately. It is very rare that you can find any of these titles in a legal editions in CD shops, that's why we got to stick with mp3 from web.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2006 at 17:24
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by yupressings yupressings wrote:

 

Yes, Tako has 2 albums   Tako 1 (1978)  i "U vreci za spavanje"(1979) both  fully progressive with dominated organs and melotrons-slightly sympho fusion overtones.

KOrnelyans is ENGLISH name for Korni grupa which they used on "Not an ordinary life" LP which has been issued nad recorded in ITALY and sung with English lyrics.

MIke

 
We have been dealing in Symphonic with a lot of good Yugoslavian bands, some of them have been moved to other genres like Folk because of the powerful ethnic sound that we (As a team) believe is necesary to take care of.
 
Good Symphonic bands we have a lot, but good Yugoslavian Folk bands very few.
 
In this moment in the Collaborators Section is being debated the case of Tako, great band, but to be honest they should pay royalties to Pink Floyd Wink
 
Not a clone but clearly derivative, for example "U vreci za Spavanje" is almost exact to Shine On You Crazy Diamond's" intro with extra piano.
 
Most surely will be found since next Friday or Saturday in the Psyche-Space Prog section.
 
Some time ago we had to deal with KORNI GRUPA KORNELYANS that was also in Symphonic, but after listening their music and in coordination with the Fusion Team we decided to move them to Prog Fusion, still is there.
 
Keep on with this feedback,. there's outstanding Prog in the former Yugoslavia.
 
 
 
Iván
 
I agree that TAKO borrowed much from FLOYD (and JETHRO TULL), still they are quite interesting.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2006 at 17:38
Originally posted by Seyo Seyo wrote:

Originally posted by Andrea Cortese Andrea Cortese wrote:

Originally posted by yupressings yupressings wrote:

Dear fellow members.

As a member of this forum from Croatia which is former Yugoslavian republic I recommend all  prog rock bands from former Yugoslavia like:

1.Time:  Time 1 (1972) + Time 2 (1974)  from art to hard prog great arrangments and vocals.

2. Drugi Nacin/Nepocin - Albums Drugi Nacin (1975),  Svijet po kojem gazim(1977) under the name Nepocin.  HArd prog with flutes and high pitched vocals- 1st LP is between J.Tull, Wishbone Ash (Argus) and Deep Purple with Gillan- 2nd LP inder the different name is great Hard Prog LP with nice guitar and flutes work.

3. Yu Grupa  -1st  and 2nd - POwerul trio combination of hard  and folk rock in Balkan way.

4.Korni Grupa- 1st LP (1972), Not an ordinary life (1974), Mrtvo More (1975), 1941 (1979) .   Long tracks- complex arrangments- brilliant musicians-original approach.

5.Folk prog bands  like Trio Dag, Porodicna Manufaktura,Sedmina,  Kladivo Konj In Voda and Tomaz Pengov.

6.Many others like   heavy psych of IGRA STAKLENIH PERLI , or  BULDOZER

   DAH, IZVIR, OPUS, POP MASINA,  SMAK, TAKO and many others.

Have a nice day.

Mike

 
Hell, I'm already came back to my holydays in Histria and searched there for some good croatian prog with no success!!!!!!! What a disappointment!!!
 
Ah, Andrea if you could not find any prog CDs in that part of Croatia, I doubt there is any chance to find it in any other former Yugoslavian country. We are talking about history, mainly 1970s, so everybody around here loves to hate all that was connected with Socialist Yugoslavia, including prog rock, unfortunately. It is very rare that you can find any of these titles in a legal editions in CD shops, that's why we got to stick with mp3 from web.
 
So let's check out those huge archives on web...Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2006 at 12:16
Thanks Ivan,
I have a dozen or so more on my list to add, just waiting to complete all needed info. Which is not easy to do at all Wacko
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2006 at 10:47
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

This is the llist of Yougoslavian bands we have in PA, there are many more from Eastern Europe:
 
 
26 bands is a good number, still missing some, but it's a good starting point.
 
Iván



LOADS of bands are missiing, but essential prog is here. The others that should be included here from the golden era are R M Tocak solo, BIJELO DUGME, DUBROVACKI TRUBADURI...

I don't know if the bands like HAD, TABLETE PROTIV STIDA, MLADI LEVI and the other obscure 70's names ever published anything more than a couple of singles...Anyone? Seyo?

There is half a dozen of 70s bands that will fit in prog-related category, like SRDJAN & BUCO and ATOMSKO SKONISTE (ATOMIC SHELTER), Josipa Lisac, GRUPA 220, VRIJEME I ZEMLJA...

To fully understand and appreciate the rock and roll scene in Yugoslavia one must know that ex-Yu experienced revival in early 80s with the punk/new wave scene. It's pointless to talk about Yu-rock (even from the prog point of view) without mention that 80's Yu-phenomenon.
Some bands stood out of the new wave crowd. They were children of punk, but with so high level of experimentation that I won't hesitate for a second calling them prog. I'm a prog fan, not a prog snob.
The 80's bands worth mentioning in PA are SARLO AKROBATA, SEXA, ANTI-MUSIC BAND, VJESTICE, GUSTAPH Y NJEGOVI DOBRI DUHOVI and MIZAR. And Rambo Amadeus, for Gods sake. And perhaps a dozen of other that I don't know.

There are some other good bands from the 80's and I was really tempted should I incude them under the progrock umbrella or not (in my own idealistic PA inside my headEmbarrassed). This is the case when we are driven by our hearts more than our thinking, and probably I just to have admit to myself that the bands like HAUSTOR, IDOLI, BOA, OBOJENI PROGRAM, LACNI FRANZ and ZHEL are not "prog", they are just "good". They are playing some combination of pop, world music and art-rock, in the vain of XTC, JAPAN, Peter Gabriel, and POLICE's "Synchronicity".

After the war, in 90's, I wasn't (and I am still not) very familiar with prog bands outside Croatia. Croatian bands worth mentioning are LEGEN, KRIES, Darko Rundek, SMRTZ TEATAR, THE BUGS, ASHES YOU LEAVE (prog-metal), SUMSKI, TENA NOVAK BAND (post-rock) and few others.
From Bosnia, SYNTHESIS. Montenegro, THE BOOKS OF KNJIGE. Serbia: excellent VASIL HADZIMANOV BAND, BALKAN HORSES and perhaps BJESOVI. (I heard that DECA LOSIH MUZICARA, NEOCEKIVANA SILA KOJA SE IZNENADA POJAVLJUJE I RESAVA STVAR (ugh!), DARKWOOD DUB and ORUZJEM PROTIVU OTMICARA are worth giving a try, but I didn't heard them myself).
Macedonia gave us loads of excellent prog in 90s: EZGIJA ORCHESTRA, OCTOECHOS, ANASTASIA and literally every former member of LEB I SOL formed own prog band.

I forgot to include Goran Bregovic, PADOT NA VIZANTJA...and probably many others...
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