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Sean Trane
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Posted: February 09 2011 at 07:17 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
Basil and cilantro tend to go good around here for a couple of months and then they flower and crap out.  Aww man, speaking of rosemary, that's one that I love to do a quick stroke with and inhale the aroma that gets on my hand. The fragrance is fantastic. It does fairly well in containers but doesn't seem to tolerate cold weather. Parsley (we usually do Italian) is another one of those that does well for a couple of months and then flowers and craps out.  |
Cilantro (also AKA Coriander) is very much like parsley >>> the idea is to stop it from flowering (pinch it) and growing into seeds >> if you do that the plants don't fan out, and you can harvest it for two years ... But if you do let it grow to seeds and collect them, you can replant it >> but somewhere else... it doesn't grow well in the same spot ..; but you're right, the flat leave parsley (aka Italian) is much tastier
One plant you should let flower is chives >>> the flowers are delicious, when sniped in a salad >>> like a perfumed fruity shallot
Rosemary.... you get the same kind of scent in thyme (or its variant the savory) and sage ... I find thart it is thyme that does not like cold and humid winters >> especially the critus-thymes (lovely smell , perfect for Thai foods).... Rosemary grows in bushes somtimes 1.5 meters high and keep gren during cold winters (it's probably the easiest to grow >>> don't mess (other than cuttting a branch or two) with it and it can live for 10 or 15 years >> superb blue flowers too....
All of these can be grown on a blaconny, but the fresh herbs (the ones that don't really dry up) should not be grown in full sunlight exposition, except maybe for basil
Edited by Sean Trane - February 09 2011 at 07:20
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timothy leary
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Posted: February 09 2011 at 08:45 |
Almost all the herbs benefit from getting their tops pinched. Rosemary here in Washington state is a very long lived herb and get to the point of being woody. I t is very nice to be able to go to the garden and cut fresh herbs. Herbs in the supermarket are not fresh in fact not much in the supermarket is fresh. Corn is meant to be picked and then eaten, never sitting around. So if you have not had fresh picked corn you are missing out on the best
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Passionist
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Posted: February 09 2011 at 08:59 |
I planted potatoes into our backyard last summer. It's not really allowed since it's a ground floor student falt. Anyway, I got only 1 potato out of each one I planted, though all of them were a lot smaller. At least the yard got some taters. Next year I'll start sooner and plow the ground better, and during the night so that no-one'll come asking what I'm doing.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: February 09 2011 at 09:05 |
I've grown strawberries the past two years. They're very frustrating to keep bug and rabbit free.
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Padraic
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Posted: February 09 2011 at 09:10 |
Dean wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
basilic (that one is relatively tricky)
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That grows like a weed whenever I plant it - being "soft" it doesn't like the cold, but in summer it goes completely crazy, but if you're growing tomatoes then fresh basil is a must have. |
In the summer time when the tomatoes are ripe, caprese salad is a regular at my house.
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timothy leary
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Posted: February 09 2011 at 09:14 |
Strawberries are a tough one, such a sweet juicy treat growing low to the ground. Here in washington state we have a big slug and snail problem and they love strawberries. We try to keep ripe strawberries immediately picked because if we don't the slugs sure will.
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A Person
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Posted: February 09 2011 at 09:16 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
I've grown strawberries the past two years. They're very frustrating to keep bug and rabbit free.
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Strawberries grow wild behind my house. So do blackberries.  I think there are boysenberries too.
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Proletariat
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Posted: February 09 2011 at 09:22 |
Strawberrys, Raspberrys, Rhubarb, Choke Cherrys, Elder Berrys! gotsta love my home grown (and wild berrys) been missing them at colege
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: February 10 2011 at 06:02 |
Sean Trane wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
Basil and cilantro tend to go good around here for a couple of months and then they flower and crap out.  Aww man, speaking of rosemary, that's one that I love to do a quick stroke with and inhale the aroma that gets on my hand. The fragrance is fantastic. It does fairly well in containers but doesn't seem to tolerate cold weather. Parsley (we usually do Italian) is another one of those that does well for a couple of months and then flowers and craps out.  |
Cilantro (also AKA Coriander) is very much like parsley >>> the idea is to stop it from flowering (pinch it) and growing into seeds >> if you do that the plants don't fan out, and you can harvest it for two years ... But if you do let it grow to seeds and collect them, you can replant it >> but somewhere else... it doesn't grow well in the same spot ..; but you're right, the flat leave parsley (aka Italian) is much tastier
One plant you should let flower is chives >>> the flowers are delicious, when sniped in a salad >>> like a perfumed fruity shallot
Rosemary.... you get the same kind of scent in thyme (or its variant the savory) and sage ... I find thart it is thyme that does not like cold and humid winters >> especially the critus-thymes (lovely smell , perfect for Thai foods).... Rosemary grows in bushes somtimes 1.5 meters high and keep gren during cold winters (it's probably the easiest to grow >>> don't mess (other than cuttting a branch or two) with it and it can live for 10 or 15 years >> superb blue flowers too....
All of these can be grown on a blaconny, but the fresh herbs (the ones that don't really dry up) should not be grown in full sunlight exposition, except maybe for basil
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Yeah, I've tried pinching the tops off but that doesn't seem to help. You've pretty much hit on all of the herbs we like to grow. Sage is another one that's great brush your hand on. This is what we were growing last year:     I'm not sure why these pics aren't coming in bigger. At the top we have basil in the middle apparently attacking the cilantro while the thyme (I think that was the thyme) is taking it's time. Next up is the thyme again, mint, and rosemary. You might be able to see tomatillo flowers at the bottom of the pic. Third pic down is cherry tomatoes, tomatillos, and cayenne peppers. The cayenne plant was very productive. Fourth pic has a herb collection pot on the right. Sage, chives, oregano,
Edited by Slartibartfast - February 10 2011 at 06:43
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timothy leary
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Posted: February 10 2011 at 08:41 |
^Nice little deck garden.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: February 12 2011 at 14:11 |
Thank you, it really is. I would encourage any apartment dwellers who like the idea of growing their own food and like to cook to try container growing if the sun is right.
Ahhh, but with the coming spring, we'll be back at the house and growing stuff in containers in our front yard, dealing with pesky squirrels and other critters, space won't be an issue though. Even on the deck, which is on the third level, we got a tomato hornworm and it had gotten big. I don't think I've ever seen one go at the house go after our tomatoes. Squirrels probably eat them.
Edited by Slartibartfast - February 12 2011 at 16:07
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timothy leary
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Posted: February 12 2011 at 14:24 |
I built a pond in the backyard last year and I would love to have some koi in it but I am 100% sure the raccoons would finish them off in short order. Critters......sure they are cute but when they devastate the garden they become less cute. The deer here love to munch on the tender tops of a lot of veggies.
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jammun
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Posted: February 12 2011 at 18:58 |
timothy leary wrote:
I built a pond in the backyard last year and I would love to have some koi in it but I am 100% sure the raccoons would finish them off in short order. Critters......sure they are cute but when they devastate the garden they become less cute. The deer here love to munch on the tender tops of a lot of veggies. |
I put a pond in our back yard many years ago. Over the years, I've stocked it with many fish, from feeder goldfish to fairly expensive koi. I've learned the fairly expensive koi are an extremely expensive way to feed racoons, or worse, blue herons, who have a refuge 'bout five miles east of here and make regular visits in the spring. I still stock the pond, just not so expensively.
I do always put in a garden, with results varying by year. Nothing yer average farmer has not dealt with since farming became popular, say for many centuries. That said, I've had many a year where I canned enough tomatoes (or sauce thereof) to last an entire winter. And the apple tree out in the back yard produces apples which make a very nice apple sauce, though they are not good for eating. Cinammon and sugar cures many ills when it comes to apples. Here in the Pacific NW planting a garden is an act of faith; one must be steeled to the possibility that there will be no harvest, or this or that slug will slime the finest zucchini.
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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timothy leary
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Posted: February 12 2011 at 19:20 |
^ I totally agree here on the wet side gardening is a hit or miss venture. I still put it in every year and as you said, some years are good and some are not.
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jammun
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Posted: February 12 2011 at 19:25 |
timothy leary wrote:
^ I totally agree here on the wet side gardening is a hit or miss venture. I still put it in every year and as you said, some years are good and some are not. |
^ Last year was a not year. We ate a few cherry tomatoes; everything else (larger tomatoes, peppers, even the strawberries) ended up as compost. As you point out, it will not stop us from trying it again this year.
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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timothy leary
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Posted: February 12 2011 at 20:37 |
Same here blight took out all the maters and i was afraid to compost it so it went to the dump.
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oliverstoned
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Posted: March 01 2011 at 09:37 |
timothy leary wrote:
Are there any gardeners here who are growing their own food and starting to get thew spring itch? I recently lucked out and found a free greenhouse on craigslist. It was a little rough but now it is ready and it will be nice to get an early start on some veggies. Nothing in the supermarket compares to food you grow yourself.
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Hi Tim! Is your greenhouse ready?
I grow my vegetables and some small fruits (and of course aromatic plants) as well every year for three years now. Last year: 100 tomato plants!
This year i'm about to grow ancient strains (some are more than a century old!) among which are orange, black, white tomatoes!
I'm much into greenhouse as well
Of course the taste of homegrown is unbelievable
Edited by oliverstoned - March 01 2011 at 09:48
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timothy leary
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Posted: March 01 2011 at 10:18 |
The greenhouse is in place and I have some tomato starts just coming up. I will try to not be anxious since our weather is so unpredictable. Outside the crocus, snowdrops and hellebores are all in full bloom. We are seed savers so it should be a great gardening year if the weather will cooperate. It is good you are preserving the old tomato strains and I must caution others if you are buying seeds in the store be careful because treated seeds will never grow the quality of fruit or vegetable that a simple untreated seed will grow.Happy gardening!
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oliverstoned
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Posted: March 01 2011 at 11:31 |
An early start for tomatoes! The sooner the start, the better for an harvest not too late in the season. BTW, tomatoes love greenhouses.
Last year i had an orange tomato strain which tasted like passion fruit!!
Edited by oliverstoned - March 01 2011 at 11:37
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: March 01 2011 at 11:39 |
Does anybody grow Spinach?
I would imagine it's not difficult from the little that I know about the plant, but I would like to know before I attempt it myself.
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