Giving A Clone Five Stars

Junges wrote: tamijo wrote: octopus-4 wrote: So let me ask: If it was on PA, do you think that the Australian Pink Floyd DVD in Liverpool doesn't deserve five stars? Some songs are played better than Pink Floyd have ever done live and most of all they are  able to combine the Waters and the Gilmour feelings as the fans would have liked them to be. There are Dogs, Comfortably Numb and High Hopes in the same concert.... I could not give a tribute band 5 stars, As i would not pay 50£ for the best replication of Mona Lisa, even if i thought it was as good as the original. But i would gladly pay a 100£ for a good original piece of art. Sad way of thinking. For me, Mona Lise in the Louvre Museum worth the same thing as any Mona Lisa. Oh is it old and it is the original one? Who cares? As for Australian Pink Floyd, you are IGNORING the music and saying "no I can't give 5 stars because it is a cover band". That's ridiculous to say the least.

It's very difficult not to borrow from the originators of the genre.

Why do you care what other people think?

octopus-4 wrote: It's a generic feeling, but again, I wasn't meaning to open a discussion about Marillion. Try Pink Floyd and Mostly Autumn instead.

I think the bigger problem with Mostly Autumn is that they are the embodiment of most of reasons people can be embarrassed to call themselves prog fans.

I can't finish this video because the tension caused by thinking about adults actually going on stage and doing that is too much for me to bear.

Junges wrote: Following this way of thinking all the old classic music pieces would be all copies too, because there is no "original" record of them, just post-recorded by other people. But everyone enjoys it without giving a f**k who conducts the piece.

  That is not the same thing at all, think for a second before you make analogies. Also, if you really think nobody cares about classical performers, you haven't been paying much attention. There's a reason Renee Fleming makes like 10 times as much as other opera singers, and it's not because she's 10 times more skilled than them. 

tamijo wrote: I could not give a tribute band 5 stars, As i would not pay 50£ for the best replication of Mona Lisa, even if i thought it was as good as the original. But i would gladly pay a 100£ for a good original piece of art.

But is that a difference in your assessment of its value to you or its resale value? Because resale value is really the only functional difference between a copy and the original. Although I admit I personally have little time for tribute bands.


Edited by Henry Plainview - August 02 2011 at 12:40

Semantics, semantics, semantics.

A clone by definition is IDENTICAL to the original. So shame on the OP for using that in the subject line when that's not what he/she really meant.

The real topic is 'Sounds a hellava lot like' as in YES / Star Castle. In short, sure, why not give them 5 stars. That is if your personal rating standard allows for such a thing. Given that the PA site rules for reviews are, for lack of a better metaphor, open source, then each reviewer is free to use whatever method they wish to rate albums. For me personally I have 5 areas I focus on when reviewing.

1 - Production
2 - Song Writing
3 - Originality
4 - Performance
5 - Overall Impression

In the case of live albums i consider arrangements by the band for originality. Sounding exactly like their studio release or every other live version of the same song gets low scores.

So right away if a band has that 'Sounds a hellava lot like' factor, they're sure not to get full marks from me and therefore no 5 star rating.

But as it's been stated time and time again here, reviews are subjective.

I mean honestly, if you like the music, you like the music. It's all a matter of opinion whether you think an album deserves five stars, clone or not.

Padraic wrote: Henry Plainview wrote: I can't finish this video because the tension caused by thinking about adults actually going on stage and doing that is too much for me to bear. I've not laughed this hard in a while.  Thanks.

1.  I thought that was pretty cool sounding.  I absolutely fail to see any humor at all.

Anthony H. wrote: If I have to see ANOTHER thread like this on PA, I don't know what I'm going to do.

Scream?

Henry Plainview wrote: I can't finish this video because the tension caused by thinking about adults actually going on stage and doing that is too much for me to bear.

Uh, I was hoping for somethign much more... outrageous?

Note to self: don't ever get a Mostly Autumn album