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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2011 at 04:37
The only neo-prog band I like isn't even neo-prog, really and that's The Tangent.  Well, at least their first 2 or 3 albums anyhow.

Retro-prog is better and I'd go for Anekdoten, Anglagard and some of those Swedish bands with Mellotron.
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Points: 4160 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2011 at 09:50
Well I listened to IQ- it was nice- I can't really say it was great unfortunately. I listened to parts of Frequency and stuff. Anything else neo-proggish someone have to offer? I'm gonna try It Bites now, they sound interesting. Is there any avantish neo prog? Is there such a thing?
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Points: 327 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2011 at 10:46
Personally i really like IQs frequency, but I'd also concede that it isn't exactly breaking any new ground. I'd have said Frost were at the more diverse end of the 'neo' sub genre but you already have them on your radar.
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Points: 34100 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2011 at 11:21
have you tried this album by the known band Pallas
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_p0PQMe4QZpI/TMnj6-NYEkI/AAAAAAAABlQ/eBeHAAhp-8Q/s1600/cover-pallas-dreamsofmen.jpg
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Well, I'll be of no use as far as neo-prog is concerned but as for RIO the first thing to do is make sure you've covered all the genuine contributors to the original RIO movement (namely Henry Cow, Univers Zero, Samla Mammas Manna, Stormy Six, Etron Fou Leloublan, Art Zoyd, Art Bears and Aksak Maboul). Now I know at least most of those will already be familiar to you, but be sure not to overlook Samla, Etron Fou and Aksak - they're all quite unique and splendid and laid down a lot of the conventions (and yes, there are conventions) of avant-prog.

Additionally, how much have you explored Frank Zappa and Captain Beefheart? Both are well worth spending a lot of time with.
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Points: 2755 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2011 at 14:02
Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

have you tried this album by the known band Pallas
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_p0PQMe4QZpI/TMnj6-NYEkI/AAAAAAAABlQ/eBeHAAhp-8Q/s1600/cover-pallas-dreamsofmen.jpg
Extremely good album.
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Originally posted by Hemulen Hemulen wrote:

 Well, I'll be of no use as far as neo-prog is concerned but as for RIO the first thing to do is make sure you've covered all the genuine contributors to the original RIO movement (namely Henry Cow, Univers Zero, Samla Mammas Manna, Stormy Six, Etron Fou Leloublan, Art Zoyd, Art Bears and Aksak Maboul). Now I know at least most of those will already be familiar to you, but be sure not to overlook Samla, Etron Fou and Aksak - they're all quite unique and splendid and laid down a lot of the conventions (and yes, there areconventions) of avant-prog.
Additionally, how much have you explored Frank Zappa and Captain Beefheart? Both are well worth spending a lot of time with.

^ I'm well aware of all bands you've mentioned. There was a time all that I just listened to Eltron a lot. I really have to check out Samla more, because I just didn't have the time to check them out. [/QUOTE]


Both with Zappa and with the Captain I'm very much a fan- though if I had to choose Beefheart would be my preferred choice (I just noticed your podcasts name!). I would go as far as to say Beefheart was the 70s biggest genius (unless you count Tim Smith but ya know Cardiacs really got their groove on in the 80s and not int the 70s). Zappa though is brilliant in almost every fashion, though he too has his f**k ups. 


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Originally posted by ghost_of_morphy ghost_of_morphy wrote:

Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

have you tried this album by the known band Pallas
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_p0PQMe4QZpI/TMnj6-NYEkI/AAAAAAAABlQ/eBeHAAhp-8Q/s1600/cover-pallas-dreamsofmen.jpg
Extremely good album.

I've heard many a good things of it- I think I'll check it out.
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Points: 4160 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2011 at 23:11
Well I've listened to "Dreams Of Men" on YT and while I'm not a fan of the vocals, the guitars, and the dramatic sounds, well while I'm not a fan of the sound in general, I can still sorta enjoy and appreciate it for what it is. I can't really explain why but yeah... I definitely didn't cringe- which is progress.
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I can't add much neo prog to the list. but I recommend the avant-garde band Hesus Attor. Their new EP is free for download here: http://hesusattor.com/album/se-orai

Just see the reviews: it's a great band!
"Prog is Not Dead and never has been." (Will Sergeant, from Echo And The Bunnymen)
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Points: 34100 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2011 at 10:04
Originally posted by frippism frippism wrote:

Well I've listened to "Dreams Of Men" on YT and while I'm not a fan of the vocals, the guitars, and the dramatic sounds, well while I'm not a fan of the sound in general, I can still sorta enjoy and appreciate it for what it is. I can't really explain why but yeah... I definitely didn't cringe- which is progress.
  i think it is the folk atmosphere, and the neuances from native american, celtic, and operattic influence on the album, I love the album couse it is so dramatic, it doesent save anything, it is very in your face, almoust metal in parts, some avant ness in some songs, and very very very crispy sound and fantastic rickenbacher sound
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Points: 34100 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2011 at 11:19
@ frippisme, have you any knowledge of Killing Joke, i recomend you to seek them out couse if  you like the experimental nature of the Cardiacs, you are gonna love Killing Joke, whom also as Cardiacs are post metal and also something totaly different all together
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Points: 8646 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2011 at 13:40
Pallas and Captain Beefheart recommended in the same thread may cause my brain to explode. 

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Points: 4160 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2011 at 14:04
^ that is my goal! Just for your brain to explode! Ever since you stole my damn kit kat... Revenge!
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