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rushfan4
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Posted: October 31 2012 at 11:06 |
I'm pretty excited. It'll be interesting to see what they come up with post-Jedi. If they will follow the post-Jedi books or come up with completely independent stories.
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tupan
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Posted: October 31 2012 at 11:30 |
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3 was actually kinda good. Not anywhere near the quality of the originals, but definitely better than the first two prequels
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HarbouringTheSoul
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Posted: October 31 2012 at 11:31 |
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This is either a hoax, in which case it's hilarious, or it's actually true, in which case it's even more hilarious.
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Hey that was your post number 666
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See? That's proof of a conspiracy right there! I call fake!  In all seriousness, after reading a bit more about it, I realized that it's not a hoax (unless they went to strangely great lengths to fool us). It's just a bit hard to swallow that after so many years of vehemently denying that there will ever be any sequels, Lucas suddenly makes a U-turn and lets someone else do it. I mean, it's all for the better because a) another Star Wars movie is always preferable to none, no matter how crappy it is and b) George Lucas doesn't write the script.
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Earthmover
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Posted: October 31 2012 at 11:47 |
I love all SW movies, so this is good news for me.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: October 31 2012 at 13:12 |
I would love to see some of the EU books filmed but Lucas has always stated that even though he approved the books and checks to make sure that all the writers have the background and facts and continuity right that the EU books are not canon.
I really don't want to see an aging Luke,Leia,Han and the rest trying to rebuild the Republic.If the EU books can be filmed I'd like to see something like the New Jedi Order,where the focus is on the Solo and Skywalker children.Or movies that deal with prequel events and some of the interesting side characters.Shadows of the Empire would be a pretty awesome movie.
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tupan
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Posted: October 31 2012 at 14:02 |
^Vector Prime, maybe?
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"Prog is Not Dead and never has been." (Will Sergeant, from Echo And The Bunnymen)
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stonebeard
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Posted: October 31 2012 at 18:50 |
If they get good writers it might not be terrible. But it will only ever not be terrible now. The brand carries too much baggage and sh*ttiness to be amazing.
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The Doctor
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Posted: October 31 2012 at 18:59 |
I think it'd be really cool to have a Dawn of the Jedi trilogy or maybe a Rise of the Sith trilogy covering the hundred year darkness. Or something about the first schism and the Legions of Lettow. If any books were to be made into movies I'd like to see either the Darth Bane trilogy or from the comics The Sith War. Barring any of the above, I'd like to see something maybe set thousands of years in the future of the SW universe, long after the Skywalkers, etc. and something completely new. Post-OT stuff has never really interested me that much.
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Posted: October 31 2012 at 19:04 |
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I wouldn't go to see them in the cinema, as the whole SW universe is massively overated for some unfathomable reason, but I'll probably rent them on DVD's, just to see what they're like.
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Considering its true size and potential for expansion, I'd say the SW universe is underrated to the extent that most don't realize it's depth is on a par with LotR.
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Posted: October 31 2012 at 19:29 |
A Star Wars side story would be epic, but Star Wars VII just seems wrong.
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Posted: October 31 2012 at 19:56 |
tupan wrote:
smartpatrol wrote:
3 was actually kinda good. Not anywhere near the quality of the originals, but definitely better than the first two prequels
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The only one of the original movies that remains watchable is Empire Strikes Back. The other two with their cartoonish actors and characters and zero plot leave me desiring more. I prefee the much-maligned newer ones. As long as there is some intrigue and compelling characters, I'm all for VII.
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Posted: November 01 2012 at 08:04 |
My question is - how many parts will they be splitting this into?
Now for summer blockbuster in 2023, it's Star Wars Episode Seven - part seven!
I'm utterly indifferent to the franchise (I did quite enjoy Bioware's take on the Old Republic). But I strick'alee associate myself with half of episode IV and two-thirds of episode V. Okay, maybe the first ten minutes of episode VI. I ignore the prequel trilogy as best I can (while admitting that, even if I don't like it, III is much better than the first two prequels). I'll probably hate this one as much as I hated Indiana Jones 4. Nuking the fridge? Really? I'll bet they'll sneak some third rate buffoons into the acting line-up. How about some Seth Rogen, Gabriel Iglesias, Adam Sandler and Channing Tatum? The new dark sith lord: David Bowie!
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Posted: November 01 2012 at 08:56 |
The T wrote:
tupan wrote:
smartpatrol wrote:
3 was actually kinda good. Not anywhere near the quality of the originals, but definitely better than the first two prequels
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| The only one of the original movies that remains watchable is Empire Strikes Back. The other two with their cartoonish actors and characters and zero plot leave me desiring more. I prefee the much-maligned newer ones. As long as there is some intrigue and compelling characters, I'm all for VII. |
This is probably the only thing we actually agree on. I much prefer the prequels to the OT. The OT is just a generic adventure story with pretty one-dimensional characters, and while the acting in the PT is maligned, the OT provided no better in the way of acting. And Ian McDiarmid, who was turned loose in the PT, blew away all the other actors in both trilogies. And I don't care what people think of Hayden, I thought he was a much better actor than Mark. A little stiff in II, but in III, his performance was pretty exceptional I thought. Finally, they didn't blow up the same freaking machine twice in the PT. I mean really, it was bad enough they spent so much of IV focused on blowing up the death star, but we had to live through it again in Jedi. Parts of IV and VI are ok, but yeah, V is the only one that even comes close to standing up to the PT. I don't understand all the love for the OT and all the hate for the PT. Political intrigue, character development, Darth Sidious > generic adventure romp any day of the week.
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Posted: November 01 2012 at 09:15 |
Star Wars VII? Please, Peter Jackson is about to release his Hobbit. Nerds, keep focus on the important things.
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Posted: November 01 2012 at 10:21 |
And the Hobbit is supposed to be in at least 3 parts.
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The Doctor
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Posted: November 01 2012 at 10:44 |
I have the perfect story line for the next trilogy. It is 40ABY and an army of dark jedi have descended on the forest moon of Endor. Ben Skywalker convenes an emergency meeting of the Jedi Council where it is quickly decided that the Ewoks are very annoying anyway and that the Jedi should all go on holiday. What follows next is a six hour blood bath in which we get to witness the extermination of each and every Ewok in existence.
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Posted: November 01 2012 at 11:02 |
The Doctor wrote:
The T wrote:
tupan wrote:
smartpatrol wrote:
3 was actually kinda good. Not anywhere near the quality of the originals, but definitely better than the first two prequels
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| The only one of the original movies that remains watchable is Empire Strikes Back. The other two with their cartoonish actors and characters and zero plot leave me desiring more. I prefee the much-maligned newer ones. As long as there is some intrigue and compelling characters, I'm all for VII. |
This is probably the only thing we actually agree on. I much prefer the prequels to the OT. The OT is just a generic adventure story with pretty one-dimensional characters, and while the acting in the PT is maligned, the OT provided no better in the way of acting. And Ian McDiarmid, who was turned loose in the PT, blew away all the other actors in both trilogies. And I don't care what people think of Hayden, I thought he was a much better actor than Mark. A little stiff in II, but in III, his performance was pretty exceptional I thought. Finally, they didn't blow up the same freaking machine twice in the PT. I mean really, it was bad enough they spent so much of IV focused on blowing up the death star, but we had to live through it again in Jedi. Parts of IV and VI are ok, but yeah, V is the only one that even comes close to standing up to the PT. I don't understand all the love for the OT and all the hate for the PT. Political intrigue, character development, Darth Sidious > generic adventure romp any day of the week. |
I agree 100%.
We agree in wanting a better world. We just differ on the ways to get there Doc 
Of course, the least said about Jar Jar Binks, the better. 
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Posted: November 01 2012 at 17:50 |
The first three movies (IV, V and VI) are among my favourite movies.
They re-released these movies at the end of the nineties, adding computer generated stuff, but very little , just a few computer generated characters in the background and one extra scene as I remember. But these things adds nothing. That extra scene with a computer animated Jabba The Hutt, I don't even remember what happened in it , or what was the point of it. I mean, what was the point? So this new technology granted Lucas to finalize the movies the way he always had wanted them to be? What is it in these added things that is so important, and that couldn't have been done originally, without computer technology? It was all about money of course.
Then came the new movie, Phantom Menace. I think I was very prepared to be disappointed, but I couldn't have imagined what I was about to see, it was shocking. I mean, it's not exactly a failure. A failure would happen when having tried to live up to big expectations to create something that feels authentic and natural, with modern freshness. It was 16 years since "Return of the Jedi", so it was a big moment. And they delivered what appeared like a Disney movie. I couldn't see any true ambition behind it. There was no feeling for the series, it didn't feel like Star Wars. So I guess it was only about money again.
I don't see those three movies as being part of the series, and with that perception, III: Revenge of the Sith is actually pretty good to me. Visually it's nice with the environments and costumes. The atmosphere is more serious with Anakins process of turning to the dark side.
So Disney has bought Star Wars? It's a big trademark, think about the toys and videogames and merchandise. A colossal amount of money. I don't think there is room for any ambition and creativity which seeks an authentic Star Wars feeling. But it will of course have the latest technology in special effects. And a host of new characters, and stuff that are likely winners with the crowd, like some Boba Fett inspired character and other retro-inspired stuff, just to entertain the audience.
Not that the original movies didn't have a broad appeal, it was made to be entertaining, but it had something of its own, whereas new movies of the series will always reuse old ideas and bring nothing new except soulless computer animations.
Edited by wilmon91 - November 01 2012 at 17:54
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Posted: November 01 2012 at 18:04 |
Atavachron wrote:
sleeper wrote:
I wouldn't go to see them in the cinema, as the whole SW universe is massively overated for some unfathomable reason, but I'll probably rent them on DVD's, just to see what they're like.
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I was reffering to the films and the fact that they are as generic and run of the mill as possible. Give me Firefly or the new Battlestar Galactica over SW any day of the week.
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HarbouringTheSoul
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Posted: November 01 2012 at 18:18 |
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It was all about money of course. [...] So I guess it was only about money again. |
All cries of "they only did it for the money!" fail to take one thing in account: Money is the reason any of the original films were made in the first place. This is entertainment, it's always about the money.
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