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Slartibartfast wrote: Equality 7-2521 wrote: Fed shuts down farm for selling milk. I don't understand this war on raw milk. I mean actually I do, but I don't understand why anyone who reads about it can find it justifiable. Yeah, it's dumb. Still not an indictment against our government doing things to protect people.

It's not? How isn't it?

I'm also highly skeptical that it's to protect people and not to protect dairy interests.

It's healthier than milk from commercial cows. 

What exactly do you mean by better ways? If you're talking about not drinking milk at all, then I agree with that.

Yeah no disagreements there about the dairy thing. I've heard a lot of anecdotal evidence about raw milk products being easier to digest for lactose intolerant people.

I've read his the Botany of Desire. I'm not really a huge fan of it. 

Jay, I've read soy milk is bad for guys becuase it messes with hormones? 

Finnforest wrote: Jay, I've read soy milk is bad for guys becuase it messes with hormones?  Am I better off with cow milk than soy?   (I ain't giving up my breakfast cereal)

Obviously I'm not Jay, but I would stay away from soy anything.

Almond products, including the milk, are usually pretty great. 

Gamemako wrote: Equality 7-2521 wrote: It's healthier than milk from commercial cows.  [citation needed]

A stupid keyword search in google scholar brought this up as the first result:

Abstract appears to be at least marginally relevant.

Is there really much scientific dispute anymore that feeding animals trash and then pumping them with antibiotics to compensate produces inferior products when compared to feeding animals a healthy diet?


Edited by Equality 7-2521 - February 14 2012 at 12:11

Equality 7-2521 wrote: Finnforest wrote: Jay, I've read soy milk is bad for guys becuase it messes with hormones?  Am I better off with cow milk than soy?   (I ain't giving up my breakfast cereal) Obviously I'm not Jay, but I would stay away from soy anything.

Thanks Pat, I will.  I might try the almond thing, can't lose with nuts.  Though I have no digestive problems with cow milk.  And it's nummy, so I might keep drinking it despite it's downside. 

Equality 7-2521 wrote: A stupid keyword search in google scholar brought this up as the first result: Abstract appears to be at least marginally relevant. Is there really much scientific dispute anymore that feeding animals trash and then pumping them with antibiotics to compensate produces inferior products when compared to feeding animals a healthy diet?

First, that abstract concerns organic, not raw, milk. Second, yes, there is a huge amount of dispute regarding the benefits of organic products, with the bulk of the evidence saying that there is no advantage whatsoever (any benefits are typically found to be linked to other practices). Third, if there is any benefit to the use of unpasteurized milk (not organic), the benefit is extremely unlikely to outweigh the additional risk of infection from the milk. Most people go for raw milk out of an abundance of magical thinking.