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^ Talking of Hammill, drummer Andy Edwards has drawn attention to the album Nadirs Big Chance as being an influence on Johnny Lydon . Excellent video this, best Andy has done imo.
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^Oh, I'll have to watch that later today, It's been in my recommended a while. 
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^^ I watched that, interesting point of view there. Smile
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SEBTP is probably the worst Gabriel/Hackett album. Which means it's still amazing, just not as amazing as the rest! 
Collins Genesis was an excellent Neo-prog band, at least until IT.
Duke is better than anything Gabriel has done, and most of what Hackett has done.
Fish is a better singer than Hogarth
Radiation isn't a bad album, and is probably better than Season's End and Holiday in Eden.
People complain that Italian accents sound horrible singing English lyrics, I think Swedish accents are much worse! (Still love several Swedish bands though!)
Big Generator is better than 90125 and almost as prog as ABWH


Edited by Faul_McCartney - March 06 2024 at 11:44
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Like Children is better than anything Mahavishnu Orchestra ever did
Marscape is better than anything Brand X ever did
Manic Moonlight is the best King's X album since parting ways with Sam Taylor
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Originally posted by Faul_McCartney Faul_McCartney wrote:

Fish is a better singer than Hogarth


He isn't but the first four Marillion albums were higher art.

I've never understood why Hogarth gets so much stick. Is it just because he isn't a 6ft 5in mountain?
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Originally posted by Faul_McCartney Faul_McCartney wrote:

SEBTP is probably the worst Gabriel/Hackett album. Which means it's still amazing, just not as amazing as the rest! 
Collins Genesis was an excellent Neo-prog band, at least until IT.
Duke is better than anything Gabriel has done, and most of what Hackett has done.
Fish is a better singer than Hogarth
Radiation isn't a bad album, and is probably better than Season's End and Holiday in Eden.
People complain that Italian accents sound horrible singing English lyrics, I think Swedish accents are much worse! (Still love several Swedish bands though!)
Big Generator is better than 90125 and almost as prog as ABWH

These are hot takes indeed, I can't say I agree with any of them. 
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

^ Talking of Hammill, drummer Andy Edwards has drawn attention to the album Nadirs Big Chance as being an influence on Johnny Lydon . Excellent video this, best Andy has done imo.



He looks and sounds like Griff Rhys Jones. LOL
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Originally posted by allmediareviews allmediareviews wrote:

Like Children is better than anything Mahavishnu Orchestra ever did


Yes


Originally posted by allmediareviews allmediareviews wrote:

Marscape is better than anything Brand X ever did


No


Originally posted by allmediareviews allmediareviews wrote:

Manic Moonlight is the best King's X album since parting ways with Sam Taylor


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Olias of Sunhillow is a 5-star album
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Originally posted by Faul_McCartney Faul_McCartney wrote:

SEBTP is probably the worst Gabriel/Hackett album. Which means it's still amazing, just not as amazing as the rest! - Really spicy, very debatable
Collins Genesis was an excellent Neo-prog band, at least until IT. - I don't think so
Duke is better than anything Gabriel has done, and most of what Hackett has done. - Very spicy. very very debatable
Fish is a better singer than Hogarth - Different moments and it may be that in general the music of the Fish era is more representative and that gives more points to the Scotsman, very different styles
Radiation isn't a bad album, and is probably better than Season's End and Holiday in Eden. - Ummm...
People complain that Italian accents sound horrible singing English lyrics, I think Swedish accents are much worse! (Still love several Swedish bands though!) - Ummm...
Big Generator is better than 90125 and almost as prog as ABWH - Agree!
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Originally posted by Faul_McCartney Faul_McCartney wrote:

SEBTP is probably the worst Gabriel/Hackett album. Which means it's still amazing, just not as amazing as the rest! Arguably, the most representative genesis album with all the tropes and great production (and THE lineup) being classified as the worst?? I don't think so! For me, it rises above everything Genesis did with the possible exception of The Lamb
Collins Genesis was an excellent Neo-prog band, at least until IT. Correction: A GOOD prog band through Duke; Well into the 80s, they went full blown pop. Did you just say Neo-Prog band??
Duke is better than anything Gabriel has done, and most of what Hackett has done. Duke is a great album and is neck and neck with the best solo stuff from both - I can get behind this
Fish is a better singer than Hogarth I agree
Radiation isn't a bad album, and is probably better than Season's End and Holiday in Eden. Can't comment here
People complain that Italian accents sound horrible singing English lyrics, I think Swedish accents are much worse! (Still love several Swedish bands though!) Both should stick to their native tongues; groups like Opeth don't have to - they have been around long enough
Big Generator is better than 90125 and almost as prog as ABWH I agree, but I never thought ABWH was that 'prog' per say
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Hot take: I find Rich Mouser's mixes to be way too over the top, and louder than necessary, especially the drums.

Quote People complain that Italian accents sound horrible singing English lyrics, I think Swedish accents are much worse! (Still love several Swedish bands though!)
Swedish accents are fine cuz Swedes generally are better English speakers than Italians. The foreign accents I find the most annoying are Italian, Polish and Japanese.

Edited by Hrychu - March 09 2024 at 20:46
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I'm just starting to delve into Radiohead's discography. My uncontroversial opinion is that, so far Kid A and Amnesiac are my favorites. 

My controversial one is... I just got to Hail to the Thief and uh... I like it more than OK Computer *GASP*.
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^^ I find their electronic material a la Kid A, Amnesiac less dated than OK Computer.

I also really like Moon Shaped Pool; to go out on that note makes me really excited for a new release (if there is one)
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^^ wrong thread?
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Michael Romero is as good if not better than John Petrucci, and that’s saying a lot!

Miriodor is the best Canadian band.

Fusion forms the core of American prog.
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Originally posted by RockHound RockHound wrote:

Fusion forms the core of American prog.


I've long held this belief, and I believe many others do!
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