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From June 2017:

Originally posted by Quinino Quinino wrote:

I happened to notice we have Bert Jansch, Pentangle, Bert & John but not John Renbourn himself - isn't the man worth to be given shelter ?
I don't know, maybe you've dealt with this before, sorry if that's the case.


... and then he was approved by Admins Big smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SteveG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 05 2018 at 07:48
^ yes, you admins always get the credit! Smile How about suggesting Fairport for prog folk as that seems more doable than adding Sandy or Thompson as prog related. At least Fairport are already listed here.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Quinino Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 05 2018 at 07:54
^ I proudly support your proposal, mate - go ahead and slam the guys, they waste all their time snoozing !
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^ Will do! It's time to wake up! Tongue

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kenethlevine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 05 2018 at 11:31
the PF team just isn't very active at the moment, but we were kind of in the middle of deciding whether to promote Fairport, demote a bunch of other acts, or do nothing, and were waiting for a third member to break the tie, that being two lukewarms for Fairport in PF.  You know, being in PF isn't everything.  But I can tell you there is little chance Sandy would be in anything other than prog related, if that.  And if Fairport is bumped up, then so probably would be Fotheringay.  So sorry I can't give any definite yes or no at this point
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SteveG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 05 2018 at 11:44
^ Au contraire mon ami, what if the Strawbs or Tull were destined to live out their lives in prog related. Sacre blue, it's the same thing with Fairport. There is no respect shown for their prog prowess if not placed in PF.
 
Edit: Excuse my French.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SteveG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 05 2018 at 12:11
Well, that went over like a lead balloon. LOL Perhaps when the prog folk team is active again. Whatever that means.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Barbu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 05 2018 at 13:33
Sans être un de mes groupes préférés quoique solidement ancré dans les traditions et le folklore (Planxty résonne un peu plus à mes oreilles), ce Liege and Lief est définitivement sur ma liste des 25 meilleurs albums tout genre confondu.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote SteveG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 05 2018 at 13:49
^ Yes I agree, but do you think the album is prog?
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^ No, not really.

Is Highway 61 prog? I'd like to say yes but...
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Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

^ No, not really.

Is Highway 61 prog? I'd like to say yes but...

Yes, but Dylan never made a song like this.

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sorry my dear Steve et Martin
Not ignoring you or anything.   Just this darn work getting in the way!

Martin, as-tu entendu Moving Hearts?  C'etait une autre supergroupe forme par Christy Moore apres Planxty.  Merveilleux
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snicolette Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 05 2018 at 16:04
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

^ No, not really.

Is Highway 61 prog? I'd like to say yes but...

Yes, but Dylan never made a song like this.


Dylan, did, however write original lyrics that were epic stories (Highway 61 Revisited song and LP included)...and he did turn the acoustic folk world on it's ear at Newport.

FP didn't write the lyrics to Matty Groves...but they sure did a wonderful rendition of it and changed the way it had been done forever.

You can see the lineage for both with the long ballad format...interesting discussion this has been.







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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote moshkito Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 05 2018 at 18:09
Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

^ No, not really.

Is Highway 61 prog? I'd like to say yes but...

For the time that it came in, YES, it is progressive. There was nothing like it around at the time.

Same thing for Highway 61.

However, when listening to it, with TODAY'S ears, nothing is anything that we think it should be because its fires and importance has gone out. You may think of it all as crap, but the insults and quantity of stuff that Bob put up with when he started using an electric guitar in the sacred folk churches, was downright abusive ... and guess what is remembered today? None of the idiots that complained about an electric guitar.

I really, would like to see some of us, look at these albums with different eyes and ears ... the album is VERY progressive, considering how un-conventional at least 3 or 4 of the songs were, which would make it more than half the album. But, since we do not seem to appreciate the talent and differences of the time and place, now we rate it as cheap crap and some gawd-awful designation that is not even close as to what the music, AND the BAND, were about.

We, really need to improve on that folks ... please re-evaluate your thoughts on some of these albums. Gawd, at least someone is not listing Stravinsky as psychedelic anymore!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Barbu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 05 2018 at 19:14
One has to be deaf to deny the importance of Dylan's work during the mid 60's on the evolution of rock music but I am not a music historian and I surely won't go into a progressive vs. prog discussion.

Two great, highly enjoyable records. That is what matters.
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Righty-o, Barbu
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Barbu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 05 2018 at 19:37
Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

sorry my dear Steve et Martin
Not ignoring you or anything.   Just this darn work getting in the way!

Martin, as-tu entendu Moving Hearts?  C'etait une autre supergroupe forme par Christy Moore apres Planxty.  Merveilleux

Pas encore, Ken Assez peu familier avec le matériel solo des membres de Planxty a part quelques Christy en concert et la collaboration Sinead/Donal sur l'excellent Sean-nos nua. Je vais y jeter un oeil lors d'une future commande. Merci.

(new Planxty release 2018 - One night in Bremen 79) Cheers!
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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Righty-o, Barbu

Hi Snicolette.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snicolette Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 05 2018 at 19:52
It's been fun so far. Enjoying the conversations. Thank you for the welcome.
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Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

sorry my dear Steve et Martin
Not ignoring you or anything.   Just this darn work getting in the way!
No worries Ken. Sometimes life gets in the way of prog. Smile
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