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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Foxprog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 10 2019 at 15:14
Probably new album from Genesis, VDGG, Yes, King Crimson or Gentle Giant would work haha. Honestly, no idea. It's a shame that a lot of great new bands won't get the recognition they deserve.
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

So how can we get those stuck in the past to try new things?

Maybe new stuff that sounds old like the previously mentioned Raven and FSTS? Maybe for some people, but others will write it off as unoriginal which is very frustrating to me. Gonna go off on a tangent sort of...

It seems a lot of people believe that Neal Morse is the champion of modern prog while hes been just writing the same silly songs a little differently for years now. There's a ton of more original and, well, good prog coming out. I don't think all Morse is bad or anything but its just... idk how to describe it, its just goofy. I also think the abundance of neo-prog and prog-metal could certainly be a turn off to older symphonic/eclectic prog fans as that stuff is generally much different. Also I think their is an abundance of prog epics and 20+ minute songs in modern prog that can be a bit inaccessible, but thats just a minor gripe I have. It's just important to keep an open mind and understand you need to acquire the taste for lots of stuff. Speaking of acquiring the taste, I hated Gentle Giant for the longest time but I finally understood it after giving it time. I hated Opeth because of their vocals, but after really listening focused to Blackwater Park, it made sense. Even just recently I've gotten really into classic jazz and jazz fusion, two genres I disliked for the longest time. It's OK to have preferences, I prefer 70s prog myself. But to believe that an album like Close to the Edge or Thick as a Brick are the end all be all, pinnacles of prog that will never be topped is just close minded to me. However I think most active reviewers are pretty fair in what they rate and how they rate it. Having only one album after 1981 in the top 20 is a bit of a travesty to me though tbh.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote I prophesy disaster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2019 at 00:00
Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

So how can we get those stuck in the past to try new things?
 
Actually, the majority of the music I listen to is from this century. And not new stuff from old bands, or even new stuff that sounds like old stuff, but genuinely new music. Although I'm old enough to have lived through the peak period of classic prog, I'm actually a little too young to have been into prog during this period, so perhaps I don't have quite the same level of attachment to classic prog as I might have if I were a few years older.
 
 
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2019 at 00:09
I think it's ridiculous to draw a conclusion that people don't listen (or like) new music because they are voting for Wobbler over Wilson. Talk about throwing all your toys out of the pram because the result is not what you want.
I'm still finding a lot of stuff from the seventies that I had not listened to before and beginning to discover and enjoy. I do listen to a lot of new stuff and actually have limited time for constantly playing old stuff. My second favourite album is Close To The Edge but I haven't listened to it for years. Same is true of a lot of classic prog. Even ELP (my favourite band) generally only get the occasional listen and then its nearly always the same album. I devote probably 90% of my listening time to new music and I reckon for many here its the same.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2019 at 00:19
^ should clarify that 'New music' to me is anything that I have not heard before or only a few listens. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Jeffro Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2019 at 05:02
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

^ should clarify that 'New music' to me is anything that I have not heard before or only a few listens. 

Same for me. New for me might be All Traps On Earth, or Thank You Scientist, or A Formal Horse, or Mercury Tree but it might also be stuff that I never paid much attention to until the last few years. Stuff like pre-DSOTM Pink Floyd, or Gentle Giant, or Happy The Man, or 70s Scorpions, or Greenslade.

So much stuff out there to explore and enjoy.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote geekfreak Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 14 2020 at 08:59
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Wobbler. 

Hand Cannot Erase is only my 4th favourite SW album but it is very good.
 

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