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Cesar Inca 
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 Posted: September 15 2004 at 15:48 |
"And maybe "Nomzamo" and "Are You Sitting Comfortably" while they're at it?"
Not a bad idea, actually - but only the good songs from both albums in one CD. Some commercial songs by IQ were really good; with some subtly complicated arrangements they would get better.
I wonder how 'Common Ground' would sound like with Nicholls on lead voice.
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Pixel Pirate
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Posted: September 16 2004 at 03:35 |
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Even though I was joking,you could be right about re-recording the best tracks of both those albums with Peter Nicholls. Especially "Common Ground",it's one of the best IQ songs ever. And they do "Human Nature" as an encore on the dvd of "Subterranea" and it sounds pretty good.
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Velvetclown
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Posted: September 16 2004 at 04:36 |
Shame on you Pixel ! Joking !!!!! 
Got hold of Lunar yet ???
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Pixel Pirate
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Posted: September 16 2004 at 06:58 |
Not yet,I thought I'd drop him a few lines at the weekend. I wonder if he's found anymore rattlesnakes in his garden? After you with the sun lounger...
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Velvetclown
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Posted: September 16 2004 at 09:49 |
Well he might wanna join us here !?
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greenback
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Posted: September 16 2004 at 13:55 |
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PL Menel has a better voice than Nichols! No doubt!
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richardh
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Posted: September 17 2004 at 02:29 |
 greenback wrote:
PL Menel has a better voice than Nichols! No doubt! |
Um...can't agree on that one...sorry!
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Velvetclown
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Posted: September 17 2004 at 02:32 |
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Nichols rules !!!!!!!
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Pixel Pirate
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Posted: September 17 2004 at 03:30 |
Maybe Menel has a better voice than Nicholls technically but he didn't manage to embody and express the soul of IQ's music the way Nicholls does. The combination of music and voice is perfectly integrated with Nicholls at the mike,but I always felt that Menel never fitted the concept.
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Pixel Pirate
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Posted: September 17 2004 at 03:44 |
And I will definitely ask Lunar to join us,and I hope he has a way of getting in touch with Leigh so that he could come along as well. I'm still waiting for his reaction to the latest Nightwish album that I recommended. He said he had ordered it and that was a few months ago so he should certainly have received it by now and I regard it as a masterpiece and I would like to know if he agrees. By the way,Nightwish doesn't appear in the Prog Archives listings and I think they should. Allright,they are essentially a metal band but they are so much more.Metal is just the basis of what they do,they definitely have strong prog leanings. If Dream Theater can be included I don't see why Nightwish shouldn't.
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sigod
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Posted: September 17 2004 at 09:39 |
I have to say that IQ are a good band and have been a pillar in the prog community for many years but I believe it depends upon what criteria you are judging the bands in question. If it's on sales alone, I suspect the poor buggers wouldn't even register in the top 30 but if it's on sheer guts and their musical contribution, they would be always be in my top ten.
I suppose that's the trouble with subjective questions. It's just a matter of taste.
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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill
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richardh
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Posted: September 17 2004 at 16:03 |
sigod wrote:
I have to say that IQ are a good band and have been a pillar in the prog community for many years but I believe it depends upon what criteria you are judging the bands in question. If it's on sales alone, I suspect the poor buggers wouldn't even register in the top 30 but if it's on sheer guts and their musical contribution, they would be always be in my top ten.
I suppose that's the trouble with subjective questions. It's just a matter of taste.
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True but IQ are still around and still producing good music.They've never made a bad album but the snidey comments about them being 'neo prog' will abound I suppose.Pity because they deserve respect for keeping the genre going(along with Marillion and a few others) when everyone else was abandoning it.
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greenback
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Posted: September 20 2004 at 15:55 |
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Bah...You know, Richard, there will always have people to bash any band in the World. Nobody make the unanimity! When you are at the point to hear comments like Mike Oldfield's Amarok is a bad album, then you better laugh at it!!
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ponter
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Posted: September 21 2004 at 01:02 |
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opinions are like assholes, everybody has one. Yours Eddy, is unclean and fouls the air around you. I find your opinion of IQ to be offensive and would advise you to be more articulate with your critique. Maybe even try to educate the rest of us as to IQ's shortcomings, rather than ranting unwelcome sexual overtures.
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shake your head as the world just nods away...
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Swinton MCR
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Posted: September 21 2004 at 02:57 |
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IQ - IMO the finest of the 80's prog continuation bands, followed by Pallas and Twelfth Night - Pallas should have gone true prog/metal rather than just remaining on the heavier end of prog!
Edited by Swinton MCR
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Pixel Pirate
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Posted: September 21 2004 at 03:49 |
I agree with you Ponter. There are few things I dislike more than people unable to articulate their opinions. Err,like,er,IQ,like,really suck,y'know? No I don't know,actually. Try to explain it to me in words!  People like that have annoyed me all my life. Disagree with me as much as you like,but be intelligent and constructive about it! On the other hand we might be the victims of a joke in this case since the "opinion" was so moronic that a lobotomised chimpanzee could do better and I don't believe anyone's spelling could be that horrendous except on purpose.
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ponter
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Posted: September 22 2004 at 00:56 |
Thanks Pirate- maybe you're right. Maybe it was a joke, just not a very good one. Ill conceived and poorly expressed. Enough of that and no one will even pay any attention to Eddy. What a shame. 
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richardh
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Posted: September 22 2004 at 02:35 |
I think the last few comments about Eddy may confuse some new to this thread so I think it should be explained that Eddy made a crude and offensive remark that has susequently been deleted ....thankfully.Now we can get back to enjoying this thread about one of England's finest prog bands
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sigod
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Posted: September 22 2004 at 11:03 |
I was lucky enough to be in a band that supported IQ at the Marquee (London, UK) back in Xmas of '88. IQ's singer at the time was Paul Menel who was absent as he had the flu so Martin Orford had to handle the vocal duities as well as the keyboards that night.
He did a fantastic job and I was mightly impressed by the performance they gave. In addition, they were very welcoming to us in the support band too, despite the added pressure of having to re-work their set at the last minute.
People might have reservations about some of the material that IQ have produced and I'm not a fan of all of their recorded output but I stand with my head held high when I say, you can't find a nicer, more professional bunch of guys. 
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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill
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Eddy
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Posted: September 22 2004 at 21:17 |
I apoligize for the obseen comment i made earlier. I was feeling very giddy when i did it. I was a complete jackass and i admit it. Putting that remark on a forum is stupid on itself, but it was my first forum relpley ive made on this site. Which is really retarded. Again I apolagise. I hope you wont put this against me. Sorry for the bad misspelled words. my computers messed up right now and i cant abc it.
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