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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2009 at 15:42
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2009 at 15:45
UNIVERS ZERO
 
this group is a bit avant garde, but good!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2009 at 15:53
Rush used the violin player, Ben Mink, from the band FM for their song 'Losing It'.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2009 at 15:54
Not mentioned so far:

High Tide

Skaldowie (the solo on Krywań, Krywań!)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2009 at 15:55
Originally posted by StyLaZyn StyLaZyn wrote:

Rush used the violin player, Ben Mink, from the band FM for their song 'Losing It'.


He was also on Geddy's solo album My Favorite Headache.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2009 at 16:01

For those who like some metal in their prog (or rather the other way around) :

PHLEBOTOMIZED
 
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 11 2009 at 11:23
Pavlov's Dog was nice :) I now remember my dad recommending this band when I was home for Christmas
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 11 2009 at 15:00
HI,
 
Let's see ... off the top of my head ...
 
String Driven Thing -->> Van Der Graaf (Graham Smith) (And Mckendree Spring?)
Curved Air -->> Wolf (Darryl Way)
Amon Duul (Kris Karrer)
PFM
Banco
Esperanto (try the 3rd album!)
Ides of March (Killer version of Eleanor Rigby on their 1st album)
King Crimson (although I did not find it that special at all)
Per Lindh Project
FM -->> Nash the Slash
High Tide -->> Hawkwind -->> Spiral Realms (Simon House)
Curved Air -->> Roxcy Music -->> UK (Eddie Jobson)
Gentle Giant
Gryphon
 
We can always add some others, that were not in the pop/rock vein ...
Scarlet Rivera
Jean-Luc Ponty
Frank Zappa
Shankar (ECM) 
 
(will add more as I remember it )
 
In general, for originality, I would say that Amon Duul 2 is the best. For classically minded uses of the violin, I find all the others rather good, but also somewhat conventional ... it's hard not to enjoy "Vivaldi with Canons" from Curved Air  and Darryl Way going nuts ... it's fabulous ... and you must play both versions (live and the original) to get the full pow-wow of it ... but things like Gryphon are highly "classical".
 
Gentle Giant is the odd ball here. Their musicianship is way up and above anyone else's and their use of instruments ... is off the chart compared to 95% of the bands mentioned here. They are special in their own way, but it is stuff that is heard to sync into ... thus their first album "Acquiring the Taste" ... which is highly mandatory and recommended anyways regardless of music.
 
In general, Banco and PFM's uses are very well defined in a classical way. King Crimson's couple of albums with it, are not ... as "important" to my ear ... as the more experimental stuff around. I really thought it was just some people wanting to bring their instruments into the modern idiom of "rock" .... 50 years from now an electric guitar will hold similar posts to a violin ...
 
I can not tell you right off the bat the good, the bad and the ugly for jazz violin .... Ponty is hardly jazz in my ears, and the same for Rivera.
 
Zappa is listed here, because he is a composer that is second to very few ... and he knows how to compose with one hundred instruments and you find a lot of violins, sometimes doing fun things and different things all over his music ... and it is fascinating and crazy at the same time. Were he a New Yorker he would be way bigger ... but because he is from Southern California he is not a "master".
 
Shankar is a Hindu that plays violin within the context of a lot of diffent musics, jazz included best known for his bit with Bruce Springsteen ... what key you playing? ... you no worry Bruce ... you just play and I join in! ...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2009 at 06:29
Originally posted by himtroy himtroy wrote:

Originally posted by The Pessimist The Pessimist wrote:

You all fail because no-one has mentioned Mahavishnu Orchestra the very FIRST band that springs to mind when anyone says violin.
 
You fail because you clearly can't read and somehow manage to be on a message board


How rude... Do you feel you have some unresolved issues you'd like to share with us, because you seem very angry. Don't worry dude, I'm all ears.

Slarti, sorry for missing your post man. An honest mistake. You don't fail


Edited by The Pessimist - May 12 2009 at 06:36
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2009 at 12:22
Check CURVED AIR and UK, very interesting bands
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2009 at 19:29
Moshkito has given you some good leads as well.

STRING DRIVEN THING's ' The Machine that Cried ' features excellent violin from Grahame Smith and some cello also. Darryl Way vintage CURVED AIR is also good as previously mentioned up to ' Air Cut' featuring Eddie Jobson [ great album - you would be aware that, apart from UK , he went on to join TULL, ZAPPA and ROXY MUSIC for short stints and is making a comeback with UKZ].

EAST OF EDEN also uses violin as does USA band of the late 60s and 70s IT'S A BEAUTIFUL DAY. Australian fusion band of the same era MACKENZIE THEORY also had a classically trained violinist. And for something very interesting and current check out Armenian symph band OAKESENHAM who have a nice mp3 stream here on PA.

A few more then to think about.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2009 at 20:22
Originally posted by The Pessimist The Pessimist wrote:

Originally posted by himtroy himtroy wrote:

Originally posted by The Pessimist The Pessimist wrote:

You all fail because no-one has mentioned Mahavishnu Orchestra the very FIRST band that springs to mind when anyone says violin.
 
You fail because you clearly can't read and somehow manage to be on a message board


How rude... Do you feel you have some unresolved issues you'd like to share with us, because you seem very angry. Don't worry dude, I'm all ears.

Slarti, sorry for missing your post man. An honest mistake. You don't fail
 
It all started when I was eight..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2009 at 20:33
Originally posted by himtroy himtroy wrote:

Originally posted by The Pessimist The Pessimist wrote:

Originally posted by himtroy himtroy wrote:

Originally posted by The Pessimist The Pessimist wrote:

You all fail because no-one has mentioned Mahavishnu Orchestra the very FIRST band that springs to mind when anyone says violin.
 
You fail because you clearly can't read and somehow manage to be on a message board


How rude... Do you feel you have some unresolved issues you'd like to share with us, because you seem very angry. Don't worry dude, I'm all ears.

Slarti, sorry for missing your post man. An honest mistake. You don't fail
 
It all started when I was eight..


Go on, this chair is definitely comfortable enough.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2009 at 23:14
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2009 at 12:23
Electric Light Orchestra have violins
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2009 at 12:31


<<thus their first album "Acquiring the Taste" ... which is highly mandatory and recommended anyways regardless of music>>.

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Aquiering the taste is not Gentle Giants first album but it is there 2nd Wink

gentle giants first recorcd is caled Gentle Giant (self titeled) and was released in 1970 and AtT was released in 71. but it is greate violin preformances on both CDs Funny Ways and Isnt it Quiet and Cold have both violin.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2009 at 13:38
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Slarti, sorry for missing your post man. An honest mistake. You don't fail


I thank you for not failing to acknowledge I beat you to mentioning MO. Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2009 at 14:31
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by The Pessimist The Pessimist wrote:



Slarti, sorry for missing your post man. An honest mistake. You don't fail


I thank you for not failing to acknowledge I beat you to mentioning MO. Big smile


I'll race you next time

See who beats who THEN
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