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Snow Dog 
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 Posted: June 17 2009 at 10:25 |
 KingCrimson250 wrote:
Hah yes, well, even this thread seems to be taking an unpleasant turn... 
Not my intention at all..I assure you.
Anyway, topofsm's right, it's about time we start talking about which album we ought to have going next. I'm actually a bit surprised (i.e. impressed) with the current one, on any other music forum I've been on a thread on TFTO would distintegrate into flame wars by page 2.
So, any ideas for the next one?
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Snow Dog wrote:
What if every new album is proposed in this thread. If it gets seconded...lets say.....five times? It goes forward for discussion?
In the case of more than one proposal, the first album to have (five?) supporters is the one we go for.
Any good?
Now If so....if you all agree. I propose that the next person to post, proposes the next album. |
Edited by Snow Dog - June 17 2009 at 10:37
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Posted: June 17 2009 at 10:42 |
KingCrimson250 wrote:
Well, looks like for the time being Tales From Topographic Oceans has it, might leave this open for a couple more days to see what happens.
moshkito: Not for the first time, I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at. I don't see why we would have a thread for reviews without discussion when we have an entire website devoted to reviews without discussion. That's what the PA is, reviews. Sure, a lot of them aren't necessarily of professional calibre, and some of them might just be fanboys gushing, or some elitist muttering about how it "isn't prog enough," but no one's forcing you to read those reviews.
So if you want a thread for reviews only, without discussion, go ahead. You'll have to explain to the forum at large, though, why this isn't redundant, because I'm a little confused on that point. If you feel that you personally have a lot to contribute then you should consider blogging in the Prog Blogs subforum.
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I agree and don't agree ... I think a place for reviews, just reviews is good ... and the only request is that only reviews are allowed ... no posts ... and it would have to be moderated ...
The only concern I have is someone saying something like ... "this is not prog like ELP" ... and consider that a review! Which you and I know is ludicrous and not a review at all ... now ... if the person mounts an awesome paper and dissultation on the matter is another case altogether, but all too often many of the commentaries are not reviews ... they are just commentaries.
In a way, the appreciation threads for many bands do this ... but it would be really nice if each of these appreciation threads had a separate area where there are real reviews for the music ... instead of the comments and rants ... and that would help this kind of music really get more visible ... right now, as is, there is no concentrated space anywhere where there is enough showing intelligent writing and comments other than fan'dom ... and fandom will be gone tomorrow!
If ithe music is valid, and the work is valid and a lot of us can say enough things about it to show that IT IS VALID, we can make a difference in how this stuff is looked at in the future ... right now, too much of it is just compared to Layla and other radio material and is relegated to the "fan" "favorite" status ... STILL ... and this is sad ... here is some outstanding musicianship by young musicians that are hoping to do something much better than just pop music ... and they can not get a decent discussion, or review ... well, sometimes the opposite comes too ... and we have to accept it ...
... we need to do more to validate the music and the art ... a fan board for an invisible concept ("prog") is not a good indicator of our care for the music ... it's just a fan board!
Edited by moshkito - June 17 2009 at 11:03
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Posted: June 17 2009 at 10:50 |
^^^^
Still don't know what you are talking about.
Anyway I propose.......
I don't know....someome propose something please!
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KingCrimson250
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Posted: June 17 2009 at 10:58 |
moshkito wrote:
I agree and don't agree ... I think a place for reviews, just reviews is good ... and the only request is that only reviews are allowed ... no posts ... and it would have to be moderated ...
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I agree that that's a good idea, I just don't see how it would be different from the main PA site EDIT: Also, for the next one, what do people think of my original suggestion of Starless and Bible Black?
Edited by KingCrimson250 - June 17 2009 at 10:58
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Posted: June 17 2009 at 11:20 |
Snow Dog wrote:
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Still don't know what you are talking about.
Anyway I propose.......
I don't know....someome propose something please! |
Snowdog ... the rock hall of fame is not going to validate the quality and value of this music that we like ... so, if we want it to last and be worth of your attention and mine, we need to do more for it ...
Now, if you don't care, and it's just another song for you, or me ... that is another ball game ... you probably won't remember it when you're 50 ... and I will be dead by then ... see?
So the idea/choice, is to make a proper repository where we can actually archive reviews of a lot of this music and some of the debate, on my part ... is that we draw the line on what is a review since a running commentary is not a review ... and neither is a comment like yours, see?
It's all about the art ... do we care enough to make it last? Or ... does it matter?
Well, it does to me! And it does for some people here ... be it lefthanded or righthanded is less important than the result!
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 17 2009 at 11:44 |
KingCrimson250 wrote:
moshkito wrote:
I agree and don't agree ... I think a place for reviews, just reviews is good ... and the only request is that only reviews are allowed ... no posts ... and it would have to be moderated ...
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I agree that that's a good idea, I just don't see how it would be different from the main PA site
EDIT: Also, for the next one, what do people think of my original suggestion of Starless and Bible Black?
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I second that proposal!
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Posted: June 17 2009 at 12:07 |
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I'll third it - good excuse to listen to it for the first time in ages  |
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It's not that I can't find worth in anything, it's just that I can't find worth in enough.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 17 2009 at 12:09 |
moshkito wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
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Still don't know what you are talking about.
Anyway I propose.......
I don't know....someome propose something please! |
Snowdog ... the rock hall of fame is not going to validate the quality and value of this music that we like ... so, if we want it to last and be worth of your attention and mine, we need to do more for it ...
Now, if you don't care, and it's just another song for you, or me ... that is another ball game ... you probably won't remember it when you're 50 ... and I will be dead by then ... see?
So the idea/choice, is to make a proper repository where we can actually archive reviews of a lot of this music and some of the debate, on my part ... is that we draw the line on what is a review since a running commentary is not a review ... and neither is a comment like yours, see?
No I don't see....what comment?
It's all about the art ... do we care enough to make it last? Or ... does it matter?
Well, it does to me! And it does for some people here ... be it lefthanded or righthanded is less important than the result! |
So besides the reviews already here...you want a thread for reviews?
I fail to understand the purpose.
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Posted: June 17 2009 at 12:35 |
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The Tales From Topographic Oceans thread was a moderate success, I'd say we keep this idea (one thread per album debate).
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 18 2009 at 06:00 |
el dingo wrote:
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I'll third it - good excuse to listen to it for the first time in ages |
I reckon if we get no more proposals, or more support for Starless in another...24 hours?...we go ahead with the current suggestion......Starless and Bible Black.
Agreed?
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Posted: June 18 2009 at 06:06 |
Great suggestion  ! A very underrated album, though not an immediately accessible one.
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el dingo
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Posted: June 18 2009 at 08:17 |
Fine by me
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It's not that I can't find worth in anything, it's just that I can't find worth in enough.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 21 2009 at 13:50 |
OK. No one wants to take control?
It seems Starless and Bilble Black is the next album discussion thread.
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Posted: June 28 2009 at 04:32 |
Ok.
Any proposals for next album to be discussed?
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Posted: June 28 2009 at 05:36 |
Tree pages just looking for the album who will be discussed here and I havenīt find it! This is more complicated than try to approve the goverment budgets in the parliament...
My proposal is this TRIANA - EL PATIO (1975)
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Posted: June 28 2009 at 07:28 |
SergiUriah wrote:
Tree pages just looking for the album who will be discussed here and I havenīt find it! This is more complicated than try to approve the goverment budgets in the parliament...
My proposal is this TRIANA - EL PATIO (1975) |
The chosen albums are discussed in a separate thread, this was just a suggestion topic.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 28 2009 at 07:43 |
Ricochet wrote:
SergiUriah wrote:
Tree pages just looking for the album who will be discussed here and I havenīt find it! This is more complicated than try to approve the goverment budgets in the parliament...
My proposal is this TRIANA - EL PATIO (1975) |
The chosen albums are discussed in a separate thread, this was just a suggestion topic.
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Well, he is suggesting isn't he? 
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Posted: June 28 2009 at 07:48 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
SergiUriah wrote:
Tree pages just looking for the album who will be discussed here and I havenīt find it! This is more complicated than try to approve the goverment budgets in the parliament...
My proposal is this TRIANA - EL PATIO (1975) |
The chosen albums are discussed in a separate thread, this was just a suggestion topic.
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Well, he is suggesting isn't he? |
He complained about not finding an album being discussed in this topic.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 28 2009 at 07:51 |
Ricochet wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
SergiUriah wrote:
Tree pages just looking for the album who will be discussed here and I havenīt find it! This is more complicated than try to approve the goverment budgets in the parliament...
My proposal is this TRIANA - EL PATIO (1975) |
The chosen albums are discussed in a separate thread, this was just a suggestion topic.
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Well, he is suggesting isn't he? |
He complained about not finding an album being discussed in this topic.
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Is he?
I don't read that!
Hey...I could be wrong. 
So far albums discussed...
1. Tales From Topographic Oceans 2. Starless And Bible Black.
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SergiUriah
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Posted: June 28 2009 at 07:59 |
Well, I understood, but my suggestion for the next thread keep on being TRIANA - EL PATIO (1975).
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