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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2010 at 15:56
Even though Doomsday Afternnon is on Pa top 100, I'm gonna call Phieaux quite under rated as they have plenty of great albums.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2010 at 17:18
Originally posted by Verwuestung Verwuestung wrote:

well what you all say is true. it's all a question of relevance.
true, Camel is underrated, when comparing to Pink Floyd
but they do have a large following

Message (http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1456) the band, in example, is to me a very underrated band. anybody knows of them?


Originally posted by O666 O666 wrote:

Nektar is big like Pink Floyd

hehe, say that again and think about it. no way, not anywhere
Dont worry! PF is idol and I never say Nektar similar to PF. I talk about value of their music. Maybe many prog fans like PF more. OK. But this isn't mean PF better than Nektar. I recommend you to listen to "Recycled" and try to find information about Nektar in Progressive sites. You will see many of professional prog fans and many of Progressive specialists put this album (recycled) in their top 10 lists. You love PF and you think PF is better than Nektar but this is your opinion. You cant forced your opinion to any one with write words like "hehe". I say again and I "thought" about it before I write it. You have your opinion and let me I keep mine please. I think "Recycled" is masterpiece and better than many of PF albums and I'm not lonley in this path.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2010 at 17:29
Originally posted by Hawkwise Hawkwise wrote:

" Nektar is Big like Pink Floyd"   Huh ? then you woke up .


Ask yer average Joe about Nektar ( even a lot prog fans to) they wont have a clue what your talking about but most people have heard of the Floyd.


Forgive me. Let me correct my mistake please. Nektar music is more valuable than PF music. Is it good HUH?
and about people that heard Floyd. Yes I agree with you. Number of people heard PF is very bigger than people heard Nektar.AND Number of people heard LADY GAGA is bigger than people heard PF. Are you agree? Or you think not? Can you explain me what is your criteria about music? Number of fans or number of people who heard that music?  I woke up  before you I think.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2010 at 17:43
Originally posted by O666 O666 wrote:

Originally posted by Verwuestung Verwuestung wrote:

well what you all say is true. it's all a question of relevance.
true, Camel is underrated, when comparing to Pink Floyd
but they do have a large following

Message (http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1456) the band, in example, is to me a very underrated band. anybody knows of them?


Originally posted by O666 O666 wrote:

Nektar is big like Pink Floyd

hehe, say that again and think about it. no way, not anywhere
Dont worry! PF is idol and I never say Nektar similar to PF. I talk about value of their music. Maybe many prog fans like PF more. OK. But this isn't mean PF better than Nektar. I recommend you to listen to "Recycled" and try to find information about Nektar in Progressive sites. You will see many of professional prog fans and many of Progressive specialists put this album (recycled) in their top 10 lists. You love PF and you think PF is better than Nektar but this is your opinion. You cant forced your opinion to any one with write words like "hehe". I say again and I "thought" about it before I write it. You have your opinion and let me I keep mine please. I think "Recycled" is masterpiece and better than many of PF albums and I'm not lonley in this path.


look man, you seem a bit offended. I wasn't trying to force any opinions of anyone
but to say Nektar is as big as Pink Floyd is generally just untrue. Though after you explained your intention I can see what you mean
I do love Pink Floyd and I love Nektar as well. I can't call any band, be it Pink Floyd or Nektar my favorite cause I just love them all. I was simply referring to each of their popularity when I replied to your quote. it's fact that Pink Floyd is way way wayyy more popular than Nektar. when I say this I am talking about the whole music world, not only prog fans. maybe you and I had a different interpretation to what "underrated" is.

having said all that, on a more personal matter, I am happy that I get that chance to talk about this (or anything) with you, as a person from Israel, to a person from Iran. this is the very first time I talk to someone from Iran, and I'm happy to have something in common with you =)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2010 at 17:51
listen carefuly to remenber the future , it's obvious , nektar must have had a few listenings to the floyd before recording their album.floyd came first , it's a fact , and in my opinion they did stronger albums ( but i like nektar too )
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2010 at 17:57

Not offended bro. I agree about "Popular" as you said and I wrote it too. I just write my opinion and talk to PROG FANS about underrated bands. I didn't discuss with "non prog" music listeners. You and me are in Progressive site and forum and discuss about our opinion.right? I'm sure you know Nektar and you like or love them as you said. I love PF so much. I grew up with bands like PF and first prog music I listened was "The Wall" and PF made me prog. But I talled about different point of view and I had different mean. I try to say bands like Nektar or PF aren't underrated bands. They have their own fans and most of prog fans know them.We must talk about perfect bands that not famous as PF or Nektar. (IMO)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2010 at 18:04
Originally posted by jean-marie jean-marie wrote:

listen carefuly to remenber the future , it's obvious , nektar must have had a few listenings to the floyd before recording their album.floyd came first , it's a fact , and in my opinion they did stronger albums ( but i like nektar too )
Maybe. Who knows? I cant find Floyd influence in Nektar. If you found. OK. But I dont care Who came first. I dont think Nektar listened to PF then they try to copy PF!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2010 at 19:29
Hi,
 
All you have to do is watch "Pink Floyd - Live in Pompeii" ... to see Nick and how good he is ... you can not add any more mood, touch and feel to that stuff any better than he did ... and his best was BEFORE the album DSOTM ... again ... see the movie!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2010 at 19:35
Originally posted by Jazzywoman Jazzywoman wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Originally posted by Lozlan Lozlan wrote:

Nektar.  All I ever hear about Nektar are close, but no cigar narratives...a band that was highly innovative, but whose innovation perpetually trailed behind more 'progressive' and successful acts.  However, I put on Tab, or Remember the Future, or their recent 2000's albums, and I'm just blown away.  This is a band that, in my humble opinion, totally deserves to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with the great, renowned artists of prog.  Just give Recycled a listen, and try not to be bodily transported.  I dare you.
Sorry, I like only the debut. The rest doesn't make anything special to me, but of course it's just my opinion.

I like them a lot; their best album is "Recycled".
I'll give it a try.
Yes you should, and as the others have been saying, "Recycled" is not only a great Nektar record, its a great prog record.  I also put Tab and Remember in high on the prog listings.
 
"Recycled" is one of the greatest rock records ever done. It might have been the magic that Larry Fast helped create or not, but in the end, it was all there, though there are pieces that ... changed.
 
The concert version of "Marvellous Moses" was longer and rocked out more than that one did. And the last cut was an original one that was added ... as the band was tired, sick and basically dead with no energy left. The next album has stuff that they had already done in concert (check the two live albums before0, and nothing new.
 
How do I like "Recycled" ... on 4 speakers around the room, loud ... and LOUD ... and let it shine baby ... let it shine ... there are very few people that put that much into their music to make it shine ... and that is one of the finest examples ever.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 26 2010 at 19:45
The first musician that comes to mind is Peter Banks, though I do think Steve Howe and Yes were made for each other.  Peter's first solo album will blow you away. Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2010 at 12:02
Annie Haslam, Dave Stewart, John Weathers. All three fairly well known in prog circles but their worthiness is perhaps not fully appreciated. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2010 at 13:19
Happy the Man is a very underrated band. Kit Watkins keys are amazing and songs like While Chrome Yellow Shine, New York Dream Suite, and Wind Up Doll Day Wind are all awesome works of prog. Not only are Kit's keys mind blowing, but he is backed up by an awesome guitarist Stanely Whitaker, who at times reminds me of Andy Latimer. Also, on some albums Coco Roussel appears, a drummer who gets little to no recognition.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2010 at 13:22
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

The first musician that comes to mind is Peter Banks, though I do think Steve Howe and Yes were made for each other.  Peter's first solo album will blow you away. Big smile
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2010 at 13:29
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Annie Haslam, Dave Stewart, John Weathers. All three fairly well known in prog circles but their worthiness is perhaps not fully appreciated. 
Annie Haslam was great with Renaissance, but her solo works are worse than Phil Collins'
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2010 at 13:48
Originally posted by Theriver Theriver wrote:

Camel underated? I would more say Camel is slightly overated. Have good moment sbut the all of it really goes from average to good. Nothing special. No genious.

Sorry to disagree, but Camel's music is fantastic, special, deep and genious. I guess it comes to taste many times, but trying to play their stuff, I've realized how complicated their arrangements and orchestration are. A truly great band.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2010 at 14:30
Originally posted by zachfive zachfive wrote:

Happy the Man is a very underrated band. Kit Watkins keys are amazing and songs like While Chrome Yellow Shine, New York Dream Suite, and Wind Up Doll Day Wind are all awesome works of prog. Not only are Kit's keys mind blowing, but he is backed up by an awesome guitarist Stanely Whitaker, who at times reminds me of Andy Latimer. Also, on some albums Coco Roussel appears, a drummer who gets little to no recognition.


Wise words matey as I love the critters hugely Thumbs Up, but relatively obscure rather than 'underrated' - if more people heard them I'm sure they wouldn't be underrated
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2010 at 15:14
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Wise words matey as I love the critters hugely Thumbs Up, but relatively obscure rather than 'underrated' - if more people heard them I'm sure they wouldn't be underrated

Perhaps, but the original post did say "But what of the bands and artists that you think happen to not get the acclaim...". It also upsets me when people have a poll or threads talking about keyboardists and rarely is Watkins mentioned.

But you're right, if people listened to them they would get the appreciation they deserve.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2010 at 15:17
More than underrated I would say not known as they should:  Marian Varga and Collegium Musicum
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2010 at 15:53
Anthony Phillips is also a great musician and quite underrated, and quite the same with the Enid although they are a bit more inconsistent IMHO.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 27 2010 at 16:10
In my opinion Guy Evans is very strong but he is never mentioned even in top 50 of great drummers . 

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