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GaryB
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Posted: November 21 2010 at 08:15 |
My three kids were born between '74 and '78 (my wife and I didn't have cable TV). Even though they grew up hearing (not listening to, there's a difference) my music they did not start liking it until they heard it in movie soundtracks. TV commercials and movies kept the 60s and 70s music alive for years. One of my sons asked me one day about the song that was playing while Bruce Willis was hitting golfballs off the oil rig (Armageddon). I explained to him that it was La Grange by ZZ Top and was practically an anthem in the late 60s anf early 70s. After that he started paying more attention to songs from movies. I discovered Drowning Pool while watching a movie (I think it was Boondock Saints). BTW, my five year old granddaughter Ava loves the CD "1" by the Beatles and insists on hearing it every time she gets in my car. Ticket To Ride and Help are her favorites.
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: November 21 2010 at 08:22 |
Dean wrote:
ergaster wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
I'm continually impressed by the old farts here that are into newer stuff and the young farts that are into the older stuff. Keeps things interesting, you know...
The number of young folks who got into prog thanks to one or both of their parent's prog collection are interesting. Makes me feel kind of old and I haven't had children, but I'm pretty sure they would be prog fans. 
So anyone here have kids that just despise prog or just don't get it?
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Well I have kids, one is 22 and the other is 11, and while I wouldn't say they despise prog or love it either, they (at least the older one) perhaps have somewhat wider tastes than others of their age. My eldest has been going through a 60s phase.
I'm working on the 11-year-old. She at least understands the compositional difference between, say, Harmony Korine and some Justin Beeb crap....

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My daughter is 20 and mainly listens to any rock music with female vocals (so she can sing along) - at age 7 she saw Courtney Love on TV and became an instant fan and couldn't understand why her friends preferred The Spice Girls over Hole. She regularily goes through my record collection pulling out anything with female vocals (Kittie, Nightwish, Theatre of Tragedy, Within Temptation, Kate Bush, Tori Amos, Emilie Autumn, Sunshine Blind, Inkkubus Sukubus). She doesn't like Prog much, but can sing along with Wish You Were Here. The only male vocals she can tolerate seems to be David Bowie and Muse. |
*insert jokes about Bellamy's "manly" vocals here*
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rdtprog
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Posted: November 21 2010 at 08:26 |
I am still playing my old favorites of the 70's but mostly it's new stuff. I enjoy discovering bands that plays music that have similarity to those of the 70's. I must say that i only got 2 or 3 bans that i am still listening over and over again in my cd player and those bands are : Rush, Genesis and Yes.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: November 21 2010 at 08:27 |
I'm thinking as long as it's available and your kids like music it's only a matter of timing. Some music just clicks with you at certain times and some things that people will play for you or say man you've got to try this doesn't always make the magic. Even for me the big prog head it has always been so.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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yanch
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Posted: November 21 2010 at 08:37 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
I'm continually impressed by the old farts here that are into newer stuff and the young farts that are into the older stuff. Keeps things interesting, you know...
The number of young folks who got into prog thanks to one or both of their parent's prog collection are interesting. Makes me feel kind of old and I haven't had children, but I'm pretty sure they would be prog fans. 
So anyone here have kids that just despise prog or just don't get it?
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Good thread for us "oldies." I'll address the thread and Slarti's good point.
First at 51, I have and still am a music lover. I was brought up with the classic prog kings-KC, Tull, Yes, Genesis, ELP, etc. and listen to them with some regularity-even went to see Ian Anderson live last night. But I also have searched regularly for newer prog to expand and keep my collection fresh and interesting, and have found bands like Marillioin, IQ, RPWL, Riverside, Tool, Spock's Beard, Transatlantic, 5 Bridges, Porcupine Tree and many others. I enjoy these newer bands tremendously and it has given me a wide selection to listen to.
As for kids, I have a 21 year old and a 17 year old and I am happy to say that both my kids can appreciate much of what I listen to. We have gone as a family to see Rush and Tool and they really like Porcupine Tree. They may not listen to what I listen to when with their friends, but they will pick things from they my ipod when we are driving places. Interestingly, most of my sons friends can't stand what I listen to and have made comments about the weird s*#t their dad is playing. I think if the parents weren't playing prog around the house, kids don't get into it because they never get exposed.
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zappaholic
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Posted: November 21 2010 at 08:51 |
43 here. Always been a music lover. Still listening to stuff that most of my peers won't touch with a 39-1/2 foot pole. Course I've been attributing it to the fact that I've never gotten married or had kids - in other words, I forgot to grow up.
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Marlon
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Posted: November 21 2010 at 09:38 |
Finnforest wrote:
Well I'm gonna burst this bubble right now. I'm mid 40s and I'm much MORE musically adventurous than I ever was in my younger days, and as adventurous as many current young people I know.
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This is my case. The only difference is that I'm 39. I have also been out of music for maybe seven years and then I returned strongly in the past 2 years.
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Hawkwise
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Posted: November 21 2010 at 09:57 |
I am 50 years long and sad to say that modern recorded music does nothing for me what so ever. but lucky for me there so much music from the past i have yet to here and that means still lots of new music for me, so i guess you could say all music is new if you have not heard it before no matter when it was made. just so happens i like music from the 50s 60s and 70s the most, very rare that i would here any recorded music from today that i find i like. Just don't like the sound out if.
Bu i am still adding lots and lots of lovely Vinyl to my already huge Vinyl collection, oh and the occasional CD to but they will be from the 50s 60s and 70s .
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caretaker
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Posted: November 21 2010 at 10:11 |
I'm 56 and was pretty much stuck in the 70's until I found you guys. I never thought I was much of a metal head but....
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: November 21 2010 at 10:51 |
I would seriously encourage a lot of those limiting their exploration to the older stuff to at least sample some of the newer stuff. Of course there is plenty from the golden age of prog to keep you occupied if you only want to dwell there.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Progosopher
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Posted: November 21 2010 at 13:39 |
akajazzman wrote:
Lets face it, your average 45 year old is not a music nut like us. Moreover, a lot of the people that were really into music with us back in the 70s just aren’t into it anymore. They’re happy to play the same tunes they were playing back in the day, or trite radio pap. Or worse, they turned off the stereo completely years ago
I’m curious, for us older music lovers hanging out at ProgArchives, we’re obviously still into music or you wouldn’t be reading this, so what are your musical habits? Are you still (just) playing those great albums of the 60s and 70s? Are you still as passionate about music as when you were younger? Do you play the older stuff to remind you of better days? Do you listen to the newer stuff? Did you put music aside for a decade, only to rediscover it now that your kids are older and your career is on track? What do you think of Prog metal? Do you feel a generation gap on ProgArchives? Who are your favorite newer discoveries? |
First, I disagree with the statement that "your average 45 year old is not a music nut like us." Most of my friends are as heavily into music as we were when we were teenagers. Most of them, however, are not especially into Prog, and some downright hate it.
As to the rest of the questions:
Yes, I am still playing those great albums of yore, and still as passionate about music as ever.
No, I do not listen to older stuff to remind me of better days. At the tender age of 50, my days are now better than they ever were before.
Yes, I listen to newer stuff, as long as I like it. I tend to go for newer bands that have a more retro sound, simply because I like the sound. I have also been in the process of discovering and rediscovering bands from the 70s, so even though the music has been around for decades, a lot of it is still new to me. Still, there are a lot of good bands from later times I really enjoy: IQ, Flower Kings, Marillion.
I have never put music aside, and I do not have kids, but I did get more into other genres of music than Prog for a long time, such as more mainstream rock, classical, and jazz.
Generally speaking, I do not care much for Prog Metal, or Metal in general, but I do get into it sometimes. The music of this genre sounds a lot alike to me, no matter the artists, but when I am in the mood for it, nothing else will do. It seems to me that younger fans are more prone to Prog Metal than older fans, but that is not a gap so much as it is a trend. Many of the younger fans are into the other genres, and some of the elders really get into Prog Metal.
Newer discoveries? Depends on how you define 'newer.' In some ways, Marillion is a newer band to me, but I've known about them for decades. Bands like Nektar and Eloy are part of my Prog renaissance and have become regular listens, but not because they are recent bands - they are just new to me.
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The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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lazland
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Posted: November 21 2010 at 13:48 |
45, and listening to more new music than ever before, whilst still dewy eyed about the old classics. Life is a blast, and so is the music
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johnobvious
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Posted: November 21 2010 at 14:02 |
45 and listen to almost all new stuff. My old stuff is on cassette and album and I have no way to play them that is convenient. And I would rather buy something new than invest in something I have heard dozens of times already.
The thing that really has me depressed is that I have a ton of CD's but no time to listen to them. I am always looking for new music but unless something is a slam dunk that I just have to have, I have stopped buying. I just tell myself I have at least 50 CD's that I could pull out that have barely seen the light of day that I would enjoy listening to instead. Or some older CD's that I haven't played in years that need to be revisited.
Wife + kids + short commute to work = no time for music.
And by short commute, I'll give you an idea. My car is almost 10 years old (bought new) and just turned 60,000 miles.
Edited by johnobvious - November 21 2010 at 14:03
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silverpot
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Posted: November 21 2010 at 14:08 |
I'm 56 and music was my main interest in the sixties and seventies. It
all started with The Beatles of course, but then came The Moody Blues,
Pink Floyd, Genesis, ELP, Yes...I didn't know it was prog though.
In the eighties I lost contact with new music, life got in the way, and
I've been feeding on my oldies until about five years ago, when I
suddenly felt I really needed to pick up this interest again.
Now I'm lurking around on forums like this to find some new stuff to
listen to. Not only contemporary bands but also lots of music I missed
back then, like Gentle Giant for example.
It's a very interesting place this and I'm grateful for the input from
you all. I've become a Porcupine Tree and Tool fan lately, they don't
seem to be that popular with most of you, but I think they're great.
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someone_else
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Posted: November 21 2010 at 14:16 |
I am 51 now and I became aware of prog for the first time in 1972 at the age of twelve, when prog was in its heyday. Now some of my favourite songs at that time were prog or at least prog related. I started to listen to Pink Floyd and Yes. Soon after came Camel, Genesis Tangerine Dream a.o.
In the 90's I became less involved in music. I got married, became father of a daughter and had other focuses.
In the fall of 2004 I discovered PA and my interest in music was kindled again. In the last few years I have discovered new bands and artists as well as bands from the seventies I did not pay attention to.
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Heathcliffe
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Posted: November 21 2010 at 15:36 |
I'm 53 and unashamedly Living in the Past...
Tull,Zappa,ELP,Curved Air etc.
As well as non-prog - Stones,Cocker,Cat Stevens,Joni Mitchell,Buffy Sainte-Marie,Sabbath....
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slipperman
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Posted: November 21 2010 at 15:54 |
41 years old. To answer your questions:
>>Are you still (just) playing those great albums of the 60s and 70s?
still playing the '60s and '70s albums, but got into many of them in my 30s, and playing lots of '80s, '90s and '00s stuff as well, prog, heavy metal and otherwise...
>> Are you still as passionate about music as when you were younger?
Yes, but in a different way.
>>Do you play the older stuff to remind you of better days?
I play it because it's still awesome.
>> Do you listen to the newer stuff?
Prog rock-wise, there's not much in the vein of the old '70s bands that's better than that, and I never got into the neo-prog sound, so I guess not, although I love bands like Porcupine Tree, 3, Radiohead, etc.
>> Did you put music aside for a decade, only to rediscover it now that your kids are older and your career is on track?
no kids. Never waned in my love for music, although I don't necessarily need to stick to prog to love music. But prog is always there, whether it's prog rock, prog metal, or whatever...
>> What do you think of Prog metal?
I very much like metal that is "progressive," but I don't like any band that tries to sound just like another one (ie. the way Vanden Plas sounds a lot like Dream Theater...not for me, personally)
>>Who are your favorite newer discoveries?
My newer discoveries are older bands who have more of a pop thing going on: Talk Talk, Split Enz, even Cheap Trick. Still love King Crimson and Holy Terror, so it's just a matter of always expanding.
GREAT THREAD!!!
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Hercules
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Posted: November 21 2010 at 16:13 |
TheGazzardian wrote:
Hercules wrote:
I got particularly angry this week when another member accused me of being "sad" for suggesting that some musicians in the 70s (Can and Jamie Muir, to be precise) may not have been very good live. He than grumbled that I had praised Mostly Autumn and referred to them as examples of post 1989 rubbish, The sad thing is that some are stuck in the 70s and think that nothing good is done now. Such a closed mind.
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Sounds like Walter; just ignore him. He's a troll. 
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It was indeed he, though I have no idea what a troll is - except for a mythological Scandinavian creature, and I doubt if he's one of those.
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TODDLER
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Posted: November 21 2010 at 21:01 |
I am 53 years old and can no longer listen to King Crimson, Yes, Genesis, Pink Floyd, Procol Harum, or ELP. Maybe twice a year but that's it. I am even burned out on Steve Hackett, Gentle Giant, Curved Air, and Pulsar. Omega and Ange too and most of these European underground prog bands I grew up listening to as a teenager. So yes! there is quite a seperation between me and them. I find myself listening more to National Health, Egg, and a few Brand X titles. Stomu Yamashta, Jade Warrior, and Popol Vuh are still favorites. Sometimes I go through phases were I listen for 2 weeks worth of artists on the Celestial Harmonies label. For maybe 3 days I will listen to nothing but Mexican Electronic artists like Jorge Reyes, Jose Fernandas, or Alquimia or maybe Berlin stuff like Klaus Schulze, Tangerine Dream, later Brainticket and loads of others. I have hundreds of cd's.
Sometimes I will drink good wine and spend the evening listening to Krautrock. Then I will dismiss everything mentioned above and spend a few weeks listening to Frank Zappa, The GTO'S, Captain Beefheart, The Residents, Throbbing Gristle, Charles Mingus, Miles Davis, John Coltrane, and John McLaughlin. Then I spend a weekly period listening to Avant-Garde 20th Century composers Varese, Cage, Crumb, plus,....a lot of American electronic artists from the 60's like Wendy Carlos, Ruth White, Mort Garson, Beaver & Krause, and Terry Riley (don't know where he hails from?) etc.
Then it's Mike Oldfield and David Bedford night and sometimes my favorite film score in the world "The Day The Earth Stood Still" by Bernard Hermann. I greatly enjoy Conventum and Harmonium from Canada, Goblin and PFM, from Italy and Univers Zero and Art Zoyd etc. The list never ends. I have many traditional folk recordings. Fairport Convention, Steeleye Span, Pentangle, John Renbourn etc. Modern American folk like Sara Hickman, October Project and the weirdness of Nick Drake.
I have hundreds of Blues cd's ranging from the Delta style to Chicago. Howlin' Wolf, Son House, John Lee Hooker, and Robert Johnson and so many more. British Blues I greatly enjoy also. The Yardbirds, Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac, Climax Blues Band, John Mayall, early Rolling Stones, Rory Gallagher, even the Free albums which are harder edged. I never liked Ten Years After but, I love the early Jethro Tull. Also Paul Butterfield, Mike Bloomfield, Canned Heat, and the early Johnny Winter.
I can go from Jazz or Blues to Classical music in a heartbeat. I suddenly might desire to hear one Bella Bartok piece and just continue listening to his music for the rest of the night. Of the newer prog bands today....I love White Willow and Karda Estra. I also listen to crossover bands of the 70's like 10CC and Supertramp. I like The Beatles and The Kinks and the bizzare Smile album from The Beach Boys. Friends in the past have asked me "How can you go from one style to the next?" or "It makes no sense whatsoever" I guess I'm a freak however, it doesn't seem un-natural does it? I mean.....is this too out of bounds or is it common? I love music.
Edited by TODDLER - November 21 2010 at 21:04
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Bea
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Posted: November 21 2010 at 21:13 |
no - in fact - I want to come listen to albums with you - with a few good bottles of wine. 
just not the Gristle k? I know I'm missing a boat hear - but I just don't get it. 
Edited by Bea - November 21 2010 at 21:16
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