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Points: 5160 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2012 at 07:17
Not a concept album into a movie but sort of related to:
 
Arthur C. Clarke's Songs of the Distant Earth is a good sci-fi novel which Mike Oldfield took as inspiration for an album but it has never been made into a movie. I think it could make for a nice sci-fi movie.
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Points: 775 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2012 at 07:50
I think Opeth's Still Life would make an incredible movie, though it would be quite bleak...
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Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

 
I wouldn't say that the plot is shallow, it's more of an issue with the way it flows and is structured.  I mean, the storyline basically goes like this: A guy in a totalitarian society finds an ancient object, a guitar, which he learns to play and shows to the rulers.  They smash the guitar and he walks home dejected, has a dream of the better world there was before, and kills himself because he doesn't think he can go on in his terrible life.  That's very powerful in the context of the song, but in a movie, it's too short, simplistic, and unbalanced (in that it doesn't have a sufficient build to the climax, and ends sort of abruptly) to really work.  I suppose that a 2112 movie could be successful, but the creators would have to take a lot of artistic liscense and stretch out the story, add background information, depict the wars that are musically implied in the song, and incorporate several subplots into the storyline to make it work.
 
I haven't seen Atlas Shrugged, and if I do ever see it, I'll probably read the book first.  Capitalism is about the only thing I like about Ayn Rand's philosophy.
 You're right,  I see your point more clearly now. I guess I kind of assume an expansive property going from an album into a cinematic feature just as I assume a sort of summarization going from book to movie. 
 let me make a suggestion made to me by my Mom. If you can, see the movie BEFORE you read the book. In this way she says you can enjoy both fully. All of us that read know all too well that the movie never measures up to the book. If you read the book first you are just setting yourself up for dissapointment.

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Points: 564 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2012 at 12:15
Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

Not a concept album into a movie but sort of related to:
 
Arthur C. Clarke's Songs of the Distant Earth is a good sci-fi novel which Mike Oldfield took as inspiration for an album but it has never been made into a movie. I think it could make for a nice sci-fi movie.
 I'm not familiar with title. I like Clarke though.
 
 This line of thought reminded me of Bo Hansons works. Theres of course Music Inspired by The Lord of the Rings and now LotR has been made into a movie.  There is also Music Inspired by Watership Down which was also made into an animation.

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Originally posted by Flyingsod Flyingsod wrote:

Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:


 

I wouldn't say that the plot is shallow, it's more of an issue with the way it flows and is structured.  I mean, the storyline basically goes like this: A guy in a totalitarian society finds an ancient object, a guitar, which he learns to play and shows to the rulers.  They smash the guitar and he walks home dejected, has a dream of the better world there was before, and kills himself because he doesn't think he can go on in his terrible life.  That's very powerful in the context of the song, but in a movie, it's too short, simplistic, and unbalanced (in that it doesn't have a sufficient build to the climax, and ends sort of abruptly) to really work.  I suppose that a 2112 movie could be successful, but the creators would have to take a lot of artistic liscense and stretch out the story, add background information, depict the wars that are musically implied in the song, and incorporate several subplots into the storyline to make it work.

 

I haven't seen Atlas Shrugged, and if I do ever see it, I'll probably read the book first.  Capitalism is about the only thing I like about Ayn Rand's philosophy.


 You're right,  I see your point more clearly now. I guess I kind of assume an expansive property going from an album into a cinematic feature just as I assume a sort of summarization going from book to movie. 
 let me make a suggestion made to me by my Mom. If you can, see the movie BEFORE you read the book. In this way she says you can enjoy both fully. All of us that read know all too well that the movie never measures up to the book. If you read the book first you are just setting yourself up for dissapointment.


No, I don't like that sugestion from you Mom. If I expect to read a book, I definitley avoid any movie about that book. The suspense is so much cooler in the book, if I see the movie first, in less than 3 hours I know (more or less) what happens in the book, and then I don't enjoy reading the book so much. I prefer the satisfaction of reading a book over the one of watching it's adaptation as a movie. And indeed, I still don't understand that need of movie-makers for taking their liberties and modifying the sories... if they are making a movie from a book, it's because it was a succesful book and the director likes it, so why change it, usually the events as depicted in the book are better than the changes done by the director.
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How about an Post-Apocalyptic, dystopian story based and inspired by the music of Godspeed You! Black Emperor? Specifically Lift Your Skinny Fists. I've always thought of that record as instrumental concept album.
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Points: 28772 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2012 at 13:19
The Radio Gnome Invisible trilogy could make for some silly movies. 
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Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

No, I don't like that sugestion from you Mom. If I expect to read a book, I definitley avoid any movie about that book. The suspense is so much cooler in the book, if I see the movie first, in less than 3 hours I know (more or less) what happens in the book, and then I don't enjoy reading the book so much. I prefer the satisfaction of reading a book over the one of watching it's adaptation as a movie. And indeed, I still don't understand that need of movie-makers for taking their liberties and modifying the sories... if they are making a movie from a book, it's because it was a succesful book and the director likes it, so why change it, usually the events as depicted in the book are better than the changes done by the director.
 
 Ay, that's all very true. Especially for a suspensful story or a mystery. I think its a little less true for stories that are explorations of the human existence or character developmental stories. Getting preconcieved notions about things can surely change or ruin your enjoyment of anything. So if it's a choice between 2 hours of enjoyment from sitting through a movie or a lot longer from reading a book you gotta go with book (assuming you read well).  I guess my main point is for a vast majority of stories the movie is such a pale imitation theres no reason to see it if you've already read the book. if you've no desire to enjoy the movie version wathing it forst would indeed be a bad idea. So do you often find you can enjoy a movie after reading a book its based on?  I do agree that the literary art is almost always a better bet then the film adaptation though.

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Points: 741 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2012 at 15:13
A Passion Play into a movie directed by Terry Gilliam!
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Tarkus directed by Michael Bay!
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Points: 952 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2012 at 23:14
Spirit of the Age by Hawkwind (just the song rather than the 'Quark' album) directed by Kubrick
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Points: 30711 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2012 at 03:06
Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

Tarkus directed by Michael Bay!
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Points: 34100 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2012 at 03:49
Three Friends, would be a super movie, with a friendly aproach IT will work well
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I'd love to see a movie of "Chronometree" by Glass Hammer

"Dark Side of the Moon" would be amazing too.

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Originally posted by AlexDOM AlexDOM wrote:

I think Opeth's Still Life would make an incredible movie, though it would be quite bleak...
 
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Originally posted by The_Jester The_Jester wrote:

A Passion Play into a movie directed by Terry Gilliam!
 
excellent idea...he could do "The Story of The  Hare Who Lost His Spectacles" in his animated cardboard cut out style !
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Originally posted by Flyingsod Flyingsod wrote:

Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

No, I don't like that sugestion from you Mom. If I expect to read a book, I definitley avoid any movie about that book. The suspense is so much cooler in the book, if I see the movie first, in less than 3 hours I know (more or less) what happens in the book, and then I don't enjoy reading the book so much. I prefer the satisfaction of reading a book over the one of watching it's adaptation as a movie. And indeed, I still don't understand that need of movie-makers for taking their liberties and modifying the sories... if they are making a movie from a book, it's because it was a succesful book and the director likes it, so why change it, usually the events as depicted in the book are better than the changes done by the director.


 
 Ay, that's all very true. Especially for a suspensful story or a mystery. I think its a little less true for stories that are explorations of the human existence or character developmental stories. Getting preconcieved notions about things can surely change or ruin your enjoyment of anything. So if it's a choice between 2 hours of enjoyment from sitting through a movie or a lot longer from reading a book you gotta go with book (assuming you read well).  I guess my main point is for a vast majority of stories the movie is such a pale imitation theres no reason to see it if you've already read the book. if you've no desire to enjoy the movie version wathing it forst would indeed be a bad idea. So do you often find you can enjoy a movie after reading a book its based on?  I do agree that the literary art is almost always a better bet then the film adaptation though.


Oh well, I do find almost always that the books are so much better than the movies. However, I am still stubbornly excited when I know there will be a movie about a book I like. As a matter of fact, I usually am able to enjoy the movie even when I've read the book first, but at the same time I am usually frustrated because of all the needless changes that are done. I mean, I understand that the restraints of time make some adjustements necessary, but the directors will usually go beyond those time adjustments and change important parts of the book... like, the book already proved that it's susccesful and loved, and the directors have usually proved to be wrong at doing such changes, so why do they keep insisting at doing them?
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Originally posted by KeithC KeithC wrote:


Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

Strictly speaking this is not a concept album turned into a movie but a musical turned into both a movie and an excellent concept album: Jesus Christ Superstar.

 
I think the book came first by about nineteen centuries


They had to wait that long to ensure no royalties were payable ; mind you, what if there were a 2nd coming? would the royalties start from the time of the rebirth, or be backdated...?

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Originally posted by RoyFairbank RoyFairbank wrote:

The Wall
Tommy
Quadrophenia

^All been done
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I always found it sad that Tommy was destroyed by Ken Russell and made to look like a bunch of losers and idiots just stoned and ripped senseless, and a good story was wasted.
 
- Nektar's Remember the Future
- Nektar's Recycled (pushing it a bit, though!)
- Le Orme Felona e Serona
- Gong's Trilogy is actually a story, btw ... but not sure anyone can film this at all! Just think, sex, drugs, rock'n'roll ... what more could you want in a movie?
- Anthony Phillips - The Geese and the Ghost
- Queensryche - Operation Mindcrime
 
Several of Peter Hammill's albums fit in this area. I always thought "Silent Stage, Empty Corner" is no different than "Lamb" or "The Wall". Some of his solo material might fit also ... "Skin" is not an appreciated album, much, but it is excellent from the first piece to the last ... and makes for a wonderful film where the lover leaves, and the story can be told in retrospect, all the way to ... that person's death! (4 pales of water ... salt ... etc! Because of Peter's way to express words and sing them, his work is very visual and intense.  I'm not even sure that "H to He" is not a story of a man waking up and finding out what he is made of. And that house with no door, is now here and he knows that he is the door!
 
Ange - Par Les Fils de Mandrin ... or even Caricatures, which is one of their most theatrical pieces.
 
(more as I come up with it -- have to think on these)
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Originally posted by RoyFairbank RoyFairbank wrote:


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Lamb Lies Down would have been cool
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Yes, and it would be magnificent and already have a ready made audience. Sadly, all of Genesis, and specially Pete, will be totally dead adn gone before this gets done. Pete, obviously, has gotten too lazy in his lifetime with his fame, chasing dolls and what not, in order to do something serious and valuable. I think the only thing he has done since Lamb that has been worth more than just a rock song for the radio, was the soundtrack for the film he did with Scorcese ... and even then, that is music and work that he did not appreciate or take advantage of. Pete, for all intents and purposes could/should/would have been another Roger  (perhaps not as angry!) and I think his work would have been much more important ... but as he said in his interview that showed up at the Melody Maker center page ... he was disappointed that the rock gods did not like Lamb (the reviews at the time were not kind at all -- and specially after Yes, Jethro Tull and others got trashed for doing long things! ... and he wanted to go do something else. He went solo ... and that was it ... just another rock band out there ... nice songs ... so what is my usual reflection on this ... I can appreciate his work, one or two pieces per album and that's about it! The rest? ... pop music filler for my ears!
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