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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2012 at 06:46
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The biggest of which must be: to someone out there who's hurting, they spend the whole two hours yammering away about earmarks and illegal immigrants and contraception and every other peripheral, wish-I-had-the-time-to-worry-about-it issue they can think of.

Then there is the elephant of how they all -- with the sometime exception of Ron Paul -- nod along to insane statements just because they don't want to ever look like they're to the left of anybody, on anything, especially the evilness of Barack Obama. So Wednesday night when Newt said the president of the United States had a history of practicing infanticide... yep, yep, yessir, that's what he does all right. Clubs infants like baby seals in his spare time. Ike played golf, Kennedy liked boating...

Ron Paul said foreign aid just helps our enemies. Which, I believe, would make Israel and Egypt our two biggest enemies. Yup, yup, hate foreign aid. A meaningless percentage of the budget, btw.

Newt said where government becomes the central provider of services, it's a move towards tyranny -- yeah, except in all the countries where it isn't, like all of Scandanavia and much of Europe. Today a barium enema paid for by medicare, tomorrow Poland.

And isn't a highlight of every debate when Mitt Romney takes umbrage at being accused of the best thing he ever did in his life -- Romneycare? Something he should be proud of? Last night he took out his dueling glove and declared that when he was governor, he made sure there was NO requirement from the church to provide morning after pills for rape victims. They will be punished with a baby, as Jesus would want. Mitt's attitude is always, "How dare you accuse me of helping people or being compassionate! Why, I'll have you know I'm every bit as much of a cold hearted b*****d as any of these other pricks up here with me!"

"But Mitt, we have a picture of you giving money to a homeless person."

"I did NOT give a bum money! I was paying him to blow me!"' Bill Maher

"Bill Maher's Republican Debate Review

Throughout this entire process, the spectacle of these clowns thrashing each other and continually seizing and then fumbling frontrunner status has left me with an oddly reassuring feeling, one that I haven't quite been able to put my finger on. In my younger days I would have just assumed it was regular old Schadenfreude at the sight of people like Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich suffering, but this isn’t like that – it's something different than the pleasure of watching A-Rod strike out in the playoffs.

No, it was while watching the debates last night that it finally hit me: This is justice. What we have here are chickens coming home to roost. It's as if all of the American public's bad habits and perverse obsessions are all coming back to haunt Republican voters in this race: The lack of attention span, the constant demand for instant gratification, the abject hunger for negativity, the utter lack of backbone or constancy (we change our loyalties at the drop of a hat, all it takes is a clever TV ad): these things are all major factors in the spiraling Republican disaster."  Matt Taibbi



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2012 at 09:17
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

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The biggest of which must be: to someone out there who's hurting, they spend the whole two hours yammering away about earmarks and illegal immigrants and contraception and every other peripheral, wish-I-had-the-time-to-worry-about-it issue they can think of.

Then there is the elephant of how they all -- with the sometime exception of Ron Paul -- nod along to insane statements just because they don't want to ever look like they're to the left of anybody, on anything, especially the evilness of Barack Obama. So Wednesday night when Newt said the president of the United States had a history of practicing infanticide... yep, yep, yessir, that's what he does all right. Clubs infants like baby seals in his spare time. Ike played golf, Kennedy liked boating...

Ron Paul said foreign aid just helps our enemies. Which, I believe, would make Israel and Egypt our two biggest enemies. Yup, yup, hate foreign aid. A meaningless percentage of the budget, btw.

Newt said where government becomes the central provider of services, it's a move towards tyranny -- yeah, except in all the countries where it isn't, like all of Scandanavia and much of Europe. Today a barium enema paid for by medicare, tomorrow Poland.

And isn't a highlight of every debate when Mitt Romney takes umbrage at being accused of the best thing he ever did in his life -- Romneycare? Something he should be proud of? Last night he took out his dueling glove and declared that when he was governor, he made sure there was NO requirement from the church to provide morning after pills for rape victims. They will be punished with a baby, as Jesus would want. Mitt's attitude is always, "How dare you accuse me of helping people or being compassionate! Why, I'll have you know I'm every bit as much of a cold hearted b*****d as any of these other pricks up here with me!"

"But Mitt, we have a picture of you giving money to a homeless person."

"I did NOT give a bum money! I was paying him to blow me!"' Bill Maher

"Bill Maher's Republican Debate Review

Throughout this entire process, the spectacle of these clowns thrashing each other and continually seizing and then fumbling frontrunner status has left me with an oddly reassuring feeling, one that I haven't quite been able to put my finger on. In my younger days I would have just assumed it was regular old Schadenfreude at the sight of people like Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich suffering, but this isn’t like that – it's something different than the pleasure of watching A-Rod strike out in the playoffs.

No, it was while watching the debates last night that it finally hit me: This is justice. What we have here are chickens coming home to roost. It's as if all of the American public's bad habits and perverse obsessions are all coming back to haunt Republican voters in this race: The lack of attention span, the constant demand for instant gratification, the abject hunger for negativity, the utter lack of backbone or constancy (we change our loyalties at the drop of a hat, all it takes is a clever TV ad): these things are all major factors in the spiraling Republican disaster."  Matt Taibbi



The guy contradicts himself immediately pretty much. He calls the Republicans detached for arguing about petty things like earmarks (which was what five minutes of the debate where Ron Paul basically just explained why they're a non-issue?), then he says that foreign aid is a non-issue because its a meaningless percentage of the budget. However, I think people who are really hurting might rather see that 25billion spent at home rather than sent to foreign dictators and armies no?Plus, he makes the strange assumption that Ron Paul calls Israel an enemy with his statement rather than acknowledging, as Ron clearly points out, that our unilateral support of Israel is used by AlQaeda as a recruiting tool.

The paragraph about the morning after pill is absolutely ridiculous. A child could display more critical thinking. I don't know why you think these post contribute to a discussion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2012 at 10:32
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An enemy going nuclear has always been one of the big Boogeyman in the closet for the past several decades.

This is what I need people to understand: Politicians are mostly fear-mongering opportunists.  On the left-wing you have environmentalists who tell us the Earth will broil us in our own juices, and they want us to elect them so they can enact expensive and economically-crippling legislation to overcome a problem that may or may not be something we can really do anything about.  On the right-wing, you have warmongers who want us to fear the prospect of our enemies developing as countries (which those countries will continue to do regardless of anything we do save bomb them into oblivion).

Our situation will not improve until people stop voting out of fear and start voting based on what we know and is already demonstrated: That, for example, we are $15.4 trillion dollars in debt and that if we don't cut spending and borrowing, we will collapse- there's a cautionary tale in the Mediterranean right now.

So how does this translates to debates?

Ron Paul says our current intelligence suggests that Iran does not have the capability of producing a nuclear weapon.  He often gets booed (or at least no applause) for this.  The other three hopefuls just ask us what if Iran gets a nuclear weapon?  Paul offers something that can be fact-checked and verified.  The others offer nothing more than a question intent on scaring us into voting for them even though it is most likely that they cannot do anything about Iran getting a nuclear weapon.

One other consideration: Do people realize that Pakistan, North Korea, and China all have nuclear weapons?  Do people realize that China holds 8% of our national debt?  Do people realize that China's nuclear weapons can hit most of the continental United States?

Go on and marinate on that for a minute.
It's funny how just a few decades ago there WAS a nuclear enemy that had many times more weapons than all our current "enemies" combined and they ALL were pointing at the US. I guess the little ego of Americans, inflated year after year y politicians telling them "it's the best country in the world" (when it really isn't; it's as good as many others) and also the most powerful. Of course there are other countries that have more nuclear weapons like China but the US can't do much about that and people seem to totally ignore the fact, so Iran, a sad little country run by crazy people is chosen as the one big monster who could drive the US into the ground. Yes, Iran. Of all the possible bringers of apocalypse, they focus on... Iran. 

And god forbid Burkina Faso comes next!! 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2012 at 10:34
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

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The biggest of which must be: to someone out there who's hurting, they spend the whole two hours yammering away about earmarks and illegal immigrants and contraception and every other peripheral, wish-I-had-the-time-to-worry-about-it issue they can think of.

Then there is the elephant of how they all -- with the sometime exception of Ron Paul -- nod along to insane statements just because they don't want to ever look like they're to the left of anybody, on anything, especially the evilness of Barack Obama. So Wednesday night when Newt said the president of the United States had a history of practicing infanticide... yep, yep, yessir, that's what he does all right. Clubs infants like baby seals in his spare time. Ike played golf, Kennedy liked boating...

Ron Paul said foreign aid just helps our enemies. Which, I believe, would make Israel and Egypt our two biggest enemies. Yup, yup, hate foreign aid. A meaningless percentage of the budget, btw.

Newt said where government becomes the central provider of services, it's a move towards tyranny -- yeah, except in all the countries where it isn't, like all of Scandanavia and much of Europe. Today a barium enema paid for by medicare, tomorrow Poland.

And isn't a highlight of every debate when Mitt Romney takes umbrage at being accused of the best thing he ever did in his life -- Romneycare? Something he should be proud of? Last night he took out his dueling glove and declared that when he was governor, he made sure there was NO requirement from the church to provide morning after pills for rape victims. They will be punished with a baby, as Jesus would want. Mitt's attitude is always, "How dare you accuse me of helping people or being compassionate! Why, I'll have you know I'm every bit as much of a cold hearted b*****d as any of these other pricks up here with me!"

"But Mitt, we have a picture of you giving money to a homeless person."

"I did NOT give a bum money! I was paying him to blow me!"' Bill Maher

"Bill Maher's Republican Debate Review

Throughout this entire process, the spectacle of these clowns thrashing each other and continually seizing and then fumbling frontrunner status has left me with an oddly reassuring feeling, one that I haven't quite been able to put my finger on. In my younger days I would have just assumed it was regular old Schadenfreude at the sight of people like Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich suffering, but this isn’t like that – it's something different than the pleasure of watching A-Rod strike out in the playoffs.

No, it was while watching the debates last night that it finally hit me: This is justice. What we have here are chickens coming home to roost. It's as if all of the American public's bad habits and perverse obsessions are all coming back to haunt Republican voters in this race: The lack of attention span, the constant demand for instant gratification, the abject hunger for negativity, the utter lack of backbone or constancy (we change our loyalties at the drop of a hat, all it takes is a clever TV ad): these things are all major factors in the spiraling Republican disaster."  Matt Taibbi



The guy contradicts himself immediately pretty much. He calls the Republicans detached for arguing about petty things like earmarks (which was what five minutes of the debate where Ron Paul basically just explained why they're a non-issue?), then he says that foreign aid is a non-issue because its a meaningless percentage of the budget. However, I think people who are really hurting might rather see that 25billion spent at home rather than sent to foreign dictators and armies no?Plus, he makes the strange assumption that Ron Paul calls Israel an enemy with his statement rather than acknowledging, as Ron clearly points out, that our unilateral support of Israel is used by AlQaeda as a recruiting tool.

The paragraph about the morning after pill is absolutely ridiculous. A child could display more critical thinking. I don't know why you think these post contribute to a discussion.
That's the sorry article I read yesterday. The good thing is he kind of makes exceptions for Ron Paul. The bad thing is how childish his writing is. Now, I haven't read the Rolling Stone article, but then again, for my little brain's sake I try to avoid anything related to Rolling Stone... (including the band of the same name... )
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2012 at 11:15
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

  I don't know why you think these post contribute to a discussion.

Why do you think I think that?  I just post these things to annoy you. Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2012 at 12:06
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

  I don't know why you think these post contribute to a discussion.

Why do you think I think that?  I just post these things to annoy you. Tongue


I always forget. In that case, continue.
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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

An enemy going nuclear has always been one of the big Boogeyman in the closet for the past several decades.

This is what I need people to understand: Politicians are mostly fear-mongering opportunists.  On the left-wing you have environmentalists who tell us the Earth will broil us in our own juices, and they want us to elect them so they can enact expensive and economically-crippling legislation to overcome a problem that may or may not be something we can really do anything about.  On the right-wing, you have warmongers who want us to fear the prospect of our enemies developing as countries (which those countries will continue to do regardless of anything we do save bomb them into oblivion).

Our situation will not improve until people stop voting out of fear and start voting based on what we know and is already demonstrated: That, for example, we are $15.4 trillion dollars in debt and that if we don't cut spending and borrowing, we will collapse- there's a cautionary tale in the Mediterranean right now.

So how does this translates to debates?

Ron Paul says our current intelligence suggests that Iran does not have the capability of producing a nuclear weapon.  He often gets booed (or at least no applause) for this.  The other three hopefuls just ask us what if Iran gets a nuclear weapon?  Paul offers something that can be fact-checked and verified.  The others offer nothing more than a question intent on scaring us into voting for them even though it is most likely that they cannot do anything about Iran getting a nuclear weapon.

One other consideration: Do people realize that Pakistan, North Korea, and China all have nuclear weapons?  Do people realize that China holds 8% of our national debt?  Do people realize that China's nuclear weapons can hit most of the continental United States?

Go on and marinate on that for a minute.
It's funny how just a few decades ago there WAS a nuclear enemy that had many times more weapons than all our current "enemies" combined and they ALL were pointing at the US. I guess the little ego of Americans, inflated year after year y politicians telling them "it's the best country in the world" (when it really isn't; it's as good as many others) and also the most powerful. Of course there are other countries that have more nuclear weapons like China but the US can't do much about that and people seem to totally ignore the fact, so Iran, a sad little country run by crazy people is chosen as the one big monster who could drive the US into the ground. Yes, Iran. Of all the possible bringers of apocalypse, they focus on... Iran. 

And god forbid Burkina Faso comes next!! 



Funny we are so up in arms about Iran's nuclear program. We gave them their first nuclear reactor.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2012 at 16:34
^US foreign history in recent decades can be summed up like this: "Be our ally, we'll arm you; then we'll be damn afraid of you".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 24 2012 at 17:30
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

  I don't know why you think these post contribute to a discussion.

Why do you think I think that?  I just post these things to annoy you. Tongue


I always forget. In that case, continue.

Slartibartfast post amnesia is a wonderful thing?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2012 at 13:34
So far, the primary has been a debacle. The situation is Maine is frankly unacceptable - they're not going to release the correct vote totals until after "Super Tuesday"? Then what's the point of holding the elections in Maine before that date?

Santorum's popularity is really inexplicable to me. How is it that so many Americans think that abortion and gay marriage are such important issues, given the state of the economy and the national debt? There's no way he can beat Obama; independents will flock to the incumbent if Santorum is the alternative.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2012 at 17:05
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So far, the primary has been a debacle. The situation is Maine is frankly unacceptable - they're not going to release the correct vote totals until after "Super Tuesday"? Then what's the point of holding the elections in Maine before that date?

Santorum's popularity is really inexplicable to me. How is it that so many Americans think that abortion and gay marriage are such important issues, given the state of the economy and the national debt? There's no way he can beat Obama; independents will flock to the incumbent if Santorum is the alternative.

The man referred to pregnancy by rape as a "gift from God." Santorum would have a diet consisting of nothing but muskrat cooked in popcorn poppers if he thought that was mentioned somewhere in the Bible. I can't wait to see this guy try to make an argument that he should lead a country, since he doesn't seem to have knowledge of mostly anything except for what he thinks should and should not be placed in a woman's cooch. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2012 at 09:30
The TV ads are here, the TV ads are here.  Gringeech is getting slammed a lot with his own speech clips that are anti Reagan. LOLLOLLOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2012 at 10:27
Damn nobody here has even talked about that rumored tandem for the national elections that some people have talking about on the net: Romney - Paul  

Yeah right maybe Ru Paul will run with any other republican candidate (especially one of the three in competition) because Ron.... 
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He wouldn't run as his VP, and I don't think Romney would want him. If anything Paul has some agreement relating to Fed policy where Paul will support him for a continuation of his monetary ideas. 
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He would literally kill all his support overnight. The people that actually understand and are with Paul because of his dep message. They would lost all hope overnight. 
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If he ran as his VP, then yeah. 
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From what I've read, it seems like the whole "alliance" is just the fact that the two are cordial. I don't like Romney as a candidate, but he does appear to be polite in person; also, their wives have supposedly been friends for years. On the other hand, Santorum has gone out of his way to denigrate Paul, so Paul has no incentive to pull punches with him.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2012 at 13:47
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

He wouldn't run as his VP, and I don't think Romney would want him. If anything Paul has some agreement relating to Fed policy where Paul will support him for a continuation of his monetary ideas. 

I did see some commentary speculating that Ron hasn't been totally hard on Romney lately in order to hold the door open for Rand being the VP nominee.  Would that ticket make voting Romney more palatable for you guys?
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Not at all. I would withdraw any support I ever gave to Ron.
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Santorum admits hearing voices

 
       "Rick, let's talk..."

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Santorum hears voices.   Four years ago, he admitted just that:
 
"Satan is attacking the great institutions of America, using those voices of pride, vanity,
and sensuality as the root to attack all of the strong plants that has (sic) deeply rooted in
the American tradition," Senator Rick Santorum from The Daily Beast.

That's a very strong statement. Some wonder if the senator is barking-at-the-moon mad.
Santorum is undeterred. Campaigning in Arizona, he asserted his right to speak out about
"good and evil." He referenced former President Ronald Reagan as one political leader who
shared this view. Santorum also shares Reagan's strongly held conviction that trees cause pollution.
 
The Father of Lies (that would be Satan)
 
In a 2008 speech in Florida, Santorum offered this chilling vision:
 
"This is a spiritual war. And the Father of Lies has his sights on the United States of America.
If you were Satan, who would you attack in this day and age?"
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