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Angelo 
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 Posted: December 31 2007 at 10:53 |
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Tuzvihar
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Posted: December 31 2007 at 11:06 |
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"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
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Easy Livin
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
Posted: December 31 2007 at 11:10 |
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Cheers guys
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Rivertree
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Posted: December 31 2007 at 12:31 |
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cookieacquired
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Joined: January 23 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 911 |
Posted: December 31 2007 at 14:15 |
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I saw very early on in this, the idea for similar artists on each artist page.
This is a great idea as I've often found myself trying to look for another band
that say, sounds like Gentle Giant (or whatever band helps with this example for you)
My one qualm with this would be that I feel that popular artists would tend to be matched up with other, popular artists, which would be somewhat redundant for finding new bands.
My proposal would be to have say out of 6 similar artists per band, have 3 of them be popular, or mainstream type bands, while the other 3 are for more underground or obscure bands.
If you believe another problem arises from what constitutes "popular", as it seems somewhat subjective, I feel that is a mix of semantics as I feel the community is intelligent enough to draw this line in the sand of popular.
Finally, there'd probably have to be either a thread, or a subsection of people who bitc-er uh... complain about similar artists for each band, and why they should be changed. Fair enough, maybe'll they'll have something intelligent to say too!
Wow, that was lengthy but I hope that this similar artists idea is really considered, as it'd be quite a boon for PA!
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chamberry
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Posted: December 31 2007 at 14:42 |
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^^^ I like the idea.
There was something like that two years ago in every artist page on PA, but it was based on the top 20 albums of each genre so it only recommended the popular albums. I like the Cookie's idea of having 3 known bands and 3 lesser-known bands as similar artists in a band's page. |
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Chris H
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Joined: October 08 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Status: Offline Points: 8191 |
Posted: December 31 2007 at 22:10 |
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But like he said, who gets to decide what's popular and what's not? We'd have to use the Top 100 albums list and we all know the problems with that.
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Beauty will save the world.
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chamberry
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Posted: January 01 2008 at 00:31 |
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You're right...
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E-Dub
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Posted: January 01 2008 at 10:48 |
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OK, I'm already missing the most recently discussed threads at the bottom of the page. I referred to those a lot. Any chance we can get them back?
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micky
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Posted: January 01 2008 at 11:21 |
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who else will decide.... are we going to have primaries and elections on the site  ....of course not.. nothing would ever happen in that case... complete bog and melt down as everyone nitpicked them to death.the colabs would decided.. the team members responsible for the groups in their particular sub-genre would decide.. as far as popular and not easy... common sense... |
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Chris H
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Joined: October 08 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Status: Offline Points: 8191 |
Posted: January 01 2008 at 11:54 |
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Oh so you mean like ZART would say these are the most popular bands in our genres, and then JRF would say these are the most popular and so on and so forth? That seems like a fair enough idea to me.
But admins better be prepared for all the threads that say "why is X band listed as more popular than Y band, I think Y band pwns harder.
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Beauty will save the world.
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cookieacquired
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Joined: January 23 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 911 |
Posted: January 01 2008 at 13:23 |
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I knew that the definition of "popular" would make the idea somewhat, how to put it, problematic.
There are ways, first off being the collabs and specialists duke it out in their own way and, if need be, ask the community on an especially tough call
And for the initial selection process, popularity could be decided on the number of reviews a band has. This would certainly indicate some sort of name recognition with the band, which is probably what popular is.
After all, average bands can get big also (listen to the radio, certainly the proof's in the pudding there
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micky
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Posted: January 01 2008 at 14:18 |
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sure... each genre team has a notion of which band.. usually a popular one.. defines and represents the sub genres best. Take for example.... if someone said I want to know what crossover prog is about... I'd tell them to grab albums by The Moody Blues, Supertramp, David Sylvian, and Roxy Music. as far as all the threads.... we would handle those... those who want to bitch and complain and little things like that... will bite off more than they can chew. Those threads would be dealt with... look at how well the admins have clamped down on 'dissent' for controversial additions. They.. like these these representative groups would be done with a great deal of thought.. and there would be little room or patience for those who can't understand that. I doubt this idea will go anywhere... but it makes sense.. and would be helpful... |
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Chris H
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Posted: January 01 2008 at 14:39 |
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Beauty will save the world.
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NotAProghead
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Errors & Omissions Team Joined: October 22 2005 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 8049 |
Posted: January 01 2008 at 15:08 |
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I think cross references "Related bands/artists on PA" will be helpful in biographies. Example:
JETHRO TULL --> Related bands/artists: IAN ANDERSON
and vice versa:
IAN ANDERSON --> Related bands/artists: JETHRO TULL.
The reason is the following: if someone likes some band it's more than natural to know about solo and side projects of the band members.
In some cases it's obvious: for instance, cats and dogs know that Roger Waters or David Gilmour are from Pink Floyd.
But there are many lesser known bands and it is not so easy, without knowing their history, to find related projects.
I think it is worth to give all registered members the possibility to add related artists, like in case of albums' additions. Otherwise there will be too much job for collabs.
Edited by NotAProghead - January 01 2008 at 16:40 |
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Leningrad
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Joined: August 15 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 7991 |
Posted: January 01 2008 at 16:39 |
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I'm seconding this. Many of my replies today have been about 10 minutes after the comment I'm responding to, simply because I didn't see it.
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Dean
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Posted: January 01 2008 at 17:08 |
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I like that.
 They could be like mini family trees. |
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What?
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Easy Livin
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
Posted: January 01 2008 at 17:24 |
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If, as suggested, the linked bands and artists are to be recorded in the biographies, it doesn't need any development work done by M@x. It just needs time and effort. The proposal to extend the access to maintain such info beyond the collabs would need certain checks put in, to protect us from false info (nothing derogatory intended there, the vast majority of our memebrs would of course make appropriate additions). M@x is considering a Wikipedia like facility which would allow this.
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NotAProghead
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Errors & Omissions Team Joined: October 22 2005 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 8049 |
Posted: January 01 2008 at 19:12 |
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Biographies are often too short to list all relative projects.
The best example is John Wetton. I doubt everyone here can easily count projects he participated during his carreer. If there were clickable links in his bio, it could be much easier to observe corresponding bands.
An example of what we have now:
"NEW TROLLS biographyUnique in the history of Italian progressive music, NEW TROLLS were leaders and were for a time the top band in Italy. In 1973, NEW TROLLS split into two camps, the hard-rocking IBIS and the symphonic-oriented NEW TROLLS ATOMIC SYSTEM. ....." But we also have here, on PA, one more related band not mentioned in NT biography, VITTORIO DE SCALZI - LA STORIA DEI NEW TROLLS, placed in V section (http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=2101). If you don't know this band exists you probably will never find it on this site. But with clickable link it could be much easier.
Who will correct such info: collabs only or any member, is another, less principal, question. At least we can make it like we correct albums' info now (i.e. by posting messages in "Errors and omissions reports" thread). Edited by NotAProghead - January 01 2008 at 19:31 |
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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micky
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Posted: January 01 2008 at 20:15 |
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hahhahahhah... oh wow... that will be interesting... to find some some twit had a bad day and wasn't happy that X got added here... and decided to put the goddamn Wiggles down as a group to check out if you like Genesis (hahahha.. not a bad idea actually hahhah)  vast majority... but not all.. and I think you can imagine what only a few kids here can do .. bad idea... unless you live to spend all of your time going back to do corrections... |
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