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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: January 27 2008 at 11:26 |
Thandrus wrote:
RP.. vocal harmonies aside.. they are quite similar groups.... UR is not self defined music at all.. you can't go 10 ft from a write up on UR without some sort of a DP mention .. they are tied to together, for better or worse, in some sort of psychic loop or continuum hahhahaha
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I think Uriah Heep still has a melodic world different to others. Songs like Wonderworld, Sympathy, If I Had The Time or their balads will prove my opinion, I guess. |
Agree with you thandrus, Uriah Heep is probably the only Heavy Prog band that worked with sytrong atmospheres.
While DP was making their own Hard Rock and blending it with some Classical sections (I still don't believe they were ever Prog), Uriah Heeep was working with structures, they were adapting Ken Hensley's unique mysterious sound to fit perfectly with Mick Box's wah guitar and making very complex vocxal harmonies in which all the band members participated (Yes I seen Gary Thain also singing in the Masters from the Vault DVD).
At least the sound of Look at Yourself, Magician's Birthday and Demons & Wizards can't be confused with anything, I can't find any Deep Purple reference, which BTW is very hard, because they were coetaneous.
BTW; People often forget that Ken Hensley and Lee Kerslake worked with Greg Lake and John Glascock from Uriah Heep in a Proto Prog project called "The Gods", so even their background is related with Prog.
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NotAProghead
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Posted: January 27 2008 at 12:27 |
Thandrus wrote:
I think Uriah Heep still has a melodic world different to others. |
Exactly what I always tell! Quite obvious thing, but, strangely, not everyone sees it.
P.S. And Georgia's always on my mind! 
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DragonRojo
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Posted: January 29 2008 at 14:28 |
Great band! Let down over the years by personal excesses and some bad decisions.
Like most, my preference would be the classic era line up, but I was also a fan (and still am) of the great John Lawton!
There's still many fans worldwide but information has never been that
forthcoming from the official sources. There's no official fan forum in
existence now AFAIK, but there's a bunch of oldschool Heep
(Byron/Hensley/Lawton) diehards over at www.uriah-heep.org
Apparently the official sources won't acknowledge their existence due
to their tendency to criticise the present Heep incarnation!
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Real Paradox
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Posted: January 30 2008 at 13:54 |
DragonRojo wrote:
Great band! Let down over the years by personal excesses and some bad decisions. Like most, my preference would be the classic era line up, but I was also a fan (and still am) of the great John Lawton! There's still many fans worldwide but information has never been that forthcoming from the official sources. There's no official fan forum in existence now AFAIK, but there's a bunch of oldschool Heep (Byron/Hensley/Lawton) diehards over at www.uriah-heep.org Apparently the official sources won't acknowledge their existence due to their tendency to criticise the present Heep incarnation!  |
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wolfvaga
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Posted: February 21 2008 at 19:06 |
I like only song "The Wizard" from this band... Maybe they are a little bit ordinary to me, I got nothing specific in their music... But no doubt, they are a big band (maybe not as Rush, but second one of heavy prog definitive. Why? They don't have Geddy Lee. That's what make difference)...
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The Rock
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Posted: February 21 2008 at 22:06 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Thandrus wrote:
RP.. vocal harmonies aside.. they are quite similar groups.... UR is not self defined music at all.. you can't go 10 ft from a write up on UR without some sort of a DP mention .. they are tied to together, for better or worse, in some sort of psychic loop or continuum hahhahaha
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I think Uriah Heep still has a melodic world different to others. Songs like Wonderworld, Sympathy, If I Had The Time or their balads will prove my opinion, I guess. |
Agree with you thandrus, Uriah Heep is probably the only Heavy Prog band that worked with sytrong atmospheres.
While DP was making their own Hard Rock and blending it with some Classical sections (I still don't believe they were ever Prog), Uriah Heeep was working with structures, they were adapting Ken Hensley's unique mysterious sound to fit perfectly with Mick Box's wah guitar and making very complex vocxal harmonies in which all the band members participated (Yes I seen Gary Thain also singing in the Masters from the Vault DVD).
At least the sound of Look at Yourself, Magician's Birthday and Demons & Wizards can't be confused with anything, I can't find any Deep Purple reference, which BTW is very hard, because they were coetaneous.
BTW; People often forget that Ken Hensley and Lee Kerslake worked with Greg Lake and John Glascock from Uriah Heep in a Proto Prog project called "The Gods", so even their background is related with Prog.
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Then,Hensley,Kerslake and Glassckock all played in a band called Head Machine and released an album titled ''Orgasm''.They used pseudonyms to remain confidential for some reason.Ken Leslie,Lee Poole,ect...
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Thandrus
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Posted: February 22 2008 at 05:51 |
wolfvaga wrote:
Why? They don't have Geddy Lee. |
Yeah right, they had only Byron, Lawton, Sloman, Goalby and now they have Shaw... Yeah, and only the Four-men backing vocals...
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Jim Garten
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Posted: February 22 2008 at 07:22 |
My two pennys worth - I love most of their output up to about 1975, after which I feel they lost their way for a while, but before they did so, they were responsible for some of the most powerful, atmospheric music out there.
The combination of Box's power chords & the wall of sound from Hensley's Hammond B3 (let's not forget he was a very good guitarist as well) backed by Thain & Kerslake, and fronted by David Byron... classic! They never reached the heights of popularity attained by Deep Purple, but they've never gone away either - they've retained a strong fan base & the current lineup are always good value, as there is always a sense of humour onstage with them (something they always had... I mean, check out Hensley's stage clothes  )
A lot's been said of the vocal harmony work, but am I the only one who sees comparisons with the harmonies employed by Queen in the 1970s? Could it be that one of the most popular prog/rock/pop bands ever to come out of the UK were influenced by the Heep...?
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wolfvaga
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Posted: February 22 2008 at 10:57 |
Thandrus wrote:
wolfvaga wrote:
Why? They don't have Geddy Lee. |
Yeah right, they had only Byron, Lawton, Sloman, Goalby and now they have Shaw... Yeah, and only the Four-men backing vocals... |
I'm not talking about his voice (vocals). It's all about his energy and stile, which are quite unique... I find that Uriah Heep don't have that what he has... Sorry  ...
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The Quiet One
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Posted: February 22 2008 at 11:07 |
Well I'm gonna talk some stuff what I said in my reviews. I started to listen this band when I searched for wikipedia hard rock bands. Having this one being very influential by Deep Purple my fave band I thought why don't give it a try. Although there is shown tiny influence from DP Hensley's hammond is very similar to the play of Jon Lord although being Ken prog... I don't really think it should be considered as far as Floyd, Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, others. But still I think this band has to be in your prog catalog. Being their debut, Salisbury, Demons and Wizards and Magician's birthday all 3.5, 4 and 5 star albums. Having Demons and Wizards my fave and think it has no filler the best one behind Salisbury (the most prog one) and Magician's Birthday (another intemped of Demons and Wizards). And then having their debut pretty well, this could be the most DP influential album cause being recorded in the same studio where In Rock was recorded. Having Heep metal oriented songs is the only problem (for me).
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The Quiet One
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Posted: February 22 2008 at 11:14 |
Having a very poweful voice from Byron and very good heavy rythm section. Still I think Byron when he tries to similate Gillan's howls they don't really fit and don't they're good. But still Byron has a very good voice and having exceptional voice in some excpecific songs. Perhaps they will never be in my top 10 of prog bands but it will always be my top 1 heavy prog band, being the only one I know. Having Rush never has been for me cause the voice is like a cat being chocked up to death.
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Alberto Muńoz
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Posted: February 22 2008 at 11:28 |
Hello Uriah Heep (UH) was one of the best example of british hard rock with touces of progressive rock i have listen to all his 70's albums and they are damn consistent and well carfted from his first record to the Fallen Angel and there are very professional and good hooks and harmonies.
I think that they have disolved when they can reach and mantain the succes of early albums like Demons and Wizards or The Magician's Birthday, and also internal turmoils spoils the group to be consider of, but to my ears they are one of the very to five bandsof the 70's
cheers
Alberto
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jimmy_row
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Posted: February 22 2008 at 11:53 |
Jim Garten wrote:
A lot's been said of the vocal harmony work, but am I the only one who sees comparisons with the harmonies employed by Queen in the 1970s? Could it be that one of the most popular prog/rock/pop bands ever to come out of the UK were influenced by the Heep...? |
I believe that Freddie Mercury once stated that Heep were one of Queen's biggest influences; I definately agree with your observation. Interestingly, I read an interview one time with Mick Box that said he was responsible for the ball-breaking falsetto on those vocal harmonies, just like Roger Taylor would be known for later with Queen.
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aapatsos
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Posted: February 23 2008 at 10:10 |
Ken Hensley's melodies are remarkable and unforgettable. For me, July Morning is on the same level with 'A Child in time' and similar epics. Everything they have done until Firefly is worth mentioning. And I believe they are under-appreciated in this site.
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