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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2008 at 13:06
Originally posted by SolomonsMarbles SolomonsMarbles wrote:

There's really not a debate here... music is not a competition.  Classical music is more of a mind-based genre, predominantly recorded by Whites, while Jazz is more of a feel, heart-based genre, predominantly recorded by Blacks.  I prefer Jazz, but it's merely a personal preference; either is capable of taking you to a transcendental, albeit completely unique musical world.

Not anymore, there are lots of white jazz players, especially in Europe. The most famous ones are black, but that's because they were first.

And implying that the differences in "mind" vs "heart" (which is a false dichotomy in the first place) are due to racial lines is a terrible idea.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2008 at 14:57
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:



And implying that the differences in "mind" vs "heart" (which is a false dichotomy in the first place) are due to racial lines is a terrible idea.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2008 at 03:32
I pick Jazz quite easily, however I love Classical music as well. My musical background is heavily rooted in classical training (classical guitar major, woo!). However, I have spent much time working on Jazz too, be it with a teacher, friends, or alone. To me Jazz is musical perfection. It sounds equally simple and complex at the same time. It can be enjoyed easily by anyone. The harmonic and melodic ideas that go on are incredibly appealing to me. Granted both styles of music share and borrow many characteristics from each other, but the forms used and ultimately playing style are the key ingredients. I like that swing. VERY MUCH. Be it Miles, Coltrane, Armstrong, Ornette, Mingus, Monk, etc. They all have something incredible to say and say it in the most incredible way. I also find it more enjoyable to listen to the works of Jazz artists because unlike Classical music you generally get to hear the actual composer playing his/her work. Where as, many of the big composers in the "classical" field died before recording was a possibility. Who better to interpret a work than the composer him/herself? I also find the looser attitude/feel of Jazz is more fitting to me. Classical music is often more rigid in sound and just impression (for me). I sound like I'm ragging on classical music, but I don't mean to. I love it very much. I practice my Tarrega, Giuliani, Villa-Lobos, Bach everyday, I just much prefer listening to Jazz.     
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2008 at 12:36
If I have to choose, I choose classical, simply because it's 1000+ years worth of music as opposed to jazz's 100+. So jazz is bound to sound more homogenous, and it does.

Pretty much the opposite of what Avantgardehead says.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2008 at 12:42
Originally posted by Visitor13 Visitor13 wrote:

If I have to choose, I choose classical, simply because it's 1000+ years worth of music




Valid point, but I think of the period of classical music as something that starts a couple of hundred years later.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2008 at 13:05
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Originally posted by Visitor13 Visitor13 wrote:

If I have to choose, I choose classical, simply because it's 1000+ years worth of music




Valid point, but I think of the period of classical music as something that starts a couple of hundred years later.


Fair enough, but it doesn't contradict my original point, I guess.

Not that I'm adamant about it, after all classical has produced awesome stuff I'm yet to find in jazz, and vice versa.

And another point - when jazz sells out you get Marsalis-type retro and smooth jazz. When classical sells out, you get stuff like the soundtrack to Star Wars. And the latter I can actually listen to, from time to time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2008 at 14:11
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Originally posted by Visitor13 Visitor13 wrote:

If I have to choose, I choose classical, simply because it's 1000+ years worth of music




Valid point, but I think of the period of classical music as something that starts a couple of hundred years later.
 
That is correct, when referring specifically to the Classical period, but it's understood (even among academics) that "classical music" more generally refers to almost any acoustic or electro acoustic non-folk/popular music from any time period.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2008 at 21:07
Star Wars music "Contemporary Classical Music"??? LOL
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