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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2011 at 18:29
Nor did anyone in this thread yet you must bring up how he's not that special.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2011 at 18:30
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

One again; I am not a Peart hater. I just don't make an überdrummer out of him.

He clearly didn't say you were.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2011 at 18:31
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

I simply refuse to believe you will find posts that belittle other drummers. Well, not many any road.

The archives are full of those posts; since you donÄ't believe me I will go and find a few examples for you.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2011 at 18:34
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

I simply refuse to believe you will find posts that belittle other drummers. Well, not many any road.

The archives are full of those posts; since you donÄ't believe me I will go and find a few examples for you.

Go ahead.LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2011 at 18:37
To break the tension:
 
1. Bill Bruford
2. Chris Cutler
3. C. Vander
4. Phil Collins
5. Terry Bozzio
 
Top 4 more or less set in stone...fifth one up for grabs.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2011 at 18:39
I don't understand why, in a thread about members personal top 5 drummers we have to have yet another aargument about Peart. And this time across two threads at the same time. Just give us your f**king top 5!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2011 at 19:16
I don't really have a "f**king top 5"; it all depends on my mood. The drummer who influnced my personal style of drumming the most is probably the late Pierre Moerlen of Gong; it was his drumming which inspired me to become a drummer myself. But there are many many others I like - Christian Vander, Pip Pyle, Mani Neumeier, Christian Burchard, Jon Hiseman,  Harald Grosskopf, Curt Cress, Robert Wyatt, Carsten Bohn, Jacky Bouladoux, Peter Giger. Freddy Setz. Some of them sadly already play in St. Peter's house band (Moerlen, Setz, Pyle).


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2011 at 19:18
Shame you just didn't post that in the first place.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 07 2011 at 22:33
Curt Cress, of course-world class!
         He should be on my list.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 01:33
1. Neil Peart - Rush
2. Danny Carey - Tool (yes, they're prog)
3. Gavin Harrison - PT
4. Mark Heron - Oceansize
5. Mike Portnoy - DT/Transatlantic (Not a huge fan of the music, but he's good!)

Keep in mind, I'm still very new to the whole prog scene and really only know the mainstream bands and a few of the less-heard-of bands.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 06:43
Originally posted by MillsLayne MillsLayne wrote:

1. Neil Peart - Rush
2. Danny Carey - Tool (yes, they're prog)
3. Gavin Harrison - PT
4. Mark Heron - Oceansize
5. Mike Portnoy - DT/Transatlantic (Not a huge fan of the music, but he's good!)

Keep in mind, I'm still very new to the whole prog scene and really only know the mainstream bands and a few of the less-heard-of bands.

Then you should be introduced to some top drumming:

Pierre Moerlen:

Christian Vander:

Mani Neumeier:

Jon Hiseman:

Jacky Bouladoux:

Peter Giger:

Zabba Lindner:

Jan Fride Wolbrandt:

Harald Großkopf:


These are just a few examples.







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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 07:43
Why is it not ok to like Peart or hold him one's most favourite?  FYI, he is really hard to top among technical rock/metal-based drummers. There are more technically accomplished drummers playing in that style but not many with such a great sense of groove. Compared to THEM, Peart genuinely sounds like he's having fun.  I do like fusion/jazz-based drummers much more and certainly Collins a lot, lot more than Peart but it is not necessary that every drummer must play fusion and excel at it.  What you are objecting to - the lack of improvisation and spontaneity - is the essential style and not the way Peart plays it for not many can pack more energy into technical rock drum playing than Peart.  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 08:57
Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Why is it not ok to like Peart or hold him one's most favourite?  FYI, he is really hard to top among technical rock/metal-based drummers. There are more technically accomplished drummers playing in that style but not many with such a great sense of groove. Compared to THEM, Peart genuinely sounds like he's having fun.  I do like fusion/jazz-based drummers much more and certainly Collins a lot, lot more than Peart but it is not necessary that every drummer must play fusion and excel at it.  What you are objecting to - the lack of improvisation and spontaneity - is the essential style and not the way Peart plays it for not many can pack more energy into technical rock drum playing than Peart.  

How many times do I have to repeat it? There is nothing wrong with liking Peart - if he is your favourite drummer, fine. B But the hype about him is simply annoying; he is not as sensational as he is being made. Many other drummers are just vas equally skilled, and that is a fact. And comments like "Peart, who else?" are definitely belittling to other drummers; you might as well say "no-one can shine a candle to Peart".
I don't go around shouting "Merlen, Moerlen" all day, even if he is my favourite drummer; on the contrary, I always make a point of listing lots of comparatively unknown drummers, simply because they deserve it. Once again: Peart is a very acdcomplished drummer, but he is neither more nor less accomplisshed (how would you measure that in the first place?) than dozens of other drummers. I personally dislike his stle and find his drumming predictable and boring, ut that says nothing about his skills.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 09:08
Why is it not alright to have Peart as ones favourite?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 09:17
my top 5 are:(not in specific order)
1. Neil Peart
2. Phil Collins
3. Bill Bruford
4. Carl Palmer
5. Guy Evans
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 09:32
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

 
I don't go around shouting "Merlen, Moerlen" all day, even if he is my favourite drummer; on the contrary, I always make a point of listing lots of comparatively unknown drummers, simply because they deserve it. 

Er, the point is they are simply different kinds of drummers playing different styles.  A more useful comparison would be between Moerlen and Dennis Chambers and likewise between Peart and Portnoy.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 09:52
Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

 
I don't go around shouting "Merlen, Moerlen" all day, even if he is my favourite drummer; on the contrary, I always make a point of listing lots of comparatively unknown drummers, simply because they deserve it. 

Er, the point is they are simply different kinds of drummers playing different styles.  A more useful comparison would be between Moerlen and Dennis Chambers and likewise between Peart and Portnoy.  

You are completely missing the point. It does not matter which name I would shout; I simply don't go ahead and shout ANY name all the time. I am not a fangirl, for no-one and nobody. On the contrary, I try to presnt new names all the time; just look at one of my recent posts in this thread


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 09:54
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

 
I don't go around shouting "Merlen, Moerlen" all day, even if he is my favourite drummer; on the contrary, I always make a point of listing lots of comparatively unknown drummers, simply because they deserve it. 

Er, the point is they are simply different kinds of drummers playing different styles.  A more useful comparison would be between Moerlen and Dennis Chambers and likewise between Peart and Portnoy.  

You are completely missing the point. It does not matter which name I would shout; I simply don't go ahead and shout ANY name all the time. I am not a fangirl, for no-one and nobody. On the contrary, I try to presnt new names all the time; just look at one of my recent posts in this thread

No, you are missing MY point, which is simply that your complaints about Peart's style have more to do with the very nature of the music he performs and its requirements and less with his own inflexibility. So, before you go on your habitual "correcting-Peart-fanboys" spree, you should first give Peart a fairer evaluation.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 10:14
Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

 
I don't go around shouting "Merlen, Moerlen" all day, even if he is my favourite drummer; on the contrary, I always make a point of listing lots of comparatively unknown drummers, simply because they deserve it. 

Er, the point is they are simply different kinds of drummers playing different styles.  A more useful comparison would be between Moerlen and Dennis Chambers and likewise between Peart and Portnoy.  

You are completely missing the point. It does not matter which name I would shout; I simply don't go ahead and shout ANY name all the time. I am not a fangirl, for no-one and nobody. On the contrary, I try to presnt new names all the time; just look at one of my recent posts in this thread

No, you are missing MY point, which is simply that your complaints about Peart's style have more to do with the very nature of the music he performs and its requirements and less with his own inflexibility. So, before you go on your habitual "correcting-Peart-fanboys" spree, you should first give Peart a fairer evaluation.

Your point is not true at all. Just listen to the Mani Neumeier example I posted in this thread; it is from the time when Guru Guru played hard prog.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 08 2011 at 10:26
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

 
I don't go around shouting "Merlen, Moerlen" all day, even if he is my favourite drummer; on the contrary, I always make a point of listing lots of comparatively unknown drummers, simply because they deserve it. 

Er, the point is they are simply different kinds of drummers playing different styles.  A more useful comparison would be between Moerlen and Dennis Chambers and likewise between Peart and Portnoy.  

You are completely missing the point. It does not matter which name I would shout; I simply don't go ahead and shout ANY name all the time. I am not a fangirl, for no-one and nobody. On the contrary, I try to presnt new names all the time; just look at one of my recent posts in this thread

No, you are missing MY point, which is simply that your complaints about Peart's style have more to do with the very nature of the music he performs and its requirements and less with his own inflexibility. So, before you go on your habitual "correcting-Peart-fanboys" spree, you should first give Peart a fairer evaluation.

Your point is not true at all. Just listen to the Mani Neumeier example I posted in this thread; it is from the time when Guru Guru played hard prog.

I knew you would bring this up and no, the late 60s/early 70s kind of hard rock/heavy metal is completely different from Rush and has altogether different requirements.  The emphasis in the former was still on looseness and swing but the latter emphasises precision heavily and indeed at the expense of spontaneity.  Peart, however, is able to convey a lot of energy in doing so unlike many later drummers in the technical heavy rock/metal style.
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