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BaldFriede 
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 Posted: July 22 2010 at 13:14 |
 The T wrote:
Sorry Trade but that sounds a little un-scientifical... All the german people i've met (my sister lives in Germany, I studied in a German School) are very different. You can't throw all of them in the same sack. Some are (think they are) perfect, some don't. Many accept errors and corrections, many don't.
Mike, of course, is God. We agreed on that. He's beyond all of this.  |
Mike certainly behaves as if he thinks he is God. in one of his post he claimed "I am rational", which I considered to be especially funny. No human being is rational; we are all full of emotions which influence all we think and do.
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 BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
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The T
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Posted: July 22 2010 at 13:15 |
timothy leary wrote:
tell it to the pope
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Mike and the pope can actually talk in the same language... Don't worry Mike, no latin for you..
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The T
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Posted: July 22 2010 at 13:16 |
BaldFriede wrote:
The T wrote:
Sorry Trade but that sounds a little un-scientifical... All the german people i've met (my sister lives in Germany, I studied in a German School) are very different. You can't throw all of them in the same sack. Some are (think they are) perfect, some don't. Many accept errors and corrections, many don't.
Mike, of course, is God. We agreed on that. He's beyond all of this. |
Mike certainly behaves as if he thinks he is God. in one of his post he claimed "I am rational", which I considered to be especially funny. No human being is rational; we are all full of emotions which influence all we think and do.
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Those who proclaim they don't feel anything are the ones most consumed by their emotions... in many cases mis-adaptively directed towards themselves..
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Trademark
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Posted: July 22 2010 at 13:19 |
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: July 22 2010 at 13:19 |
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
That's ridiculous ... it's blatantly obvious that he's simply fooling around. He did go to that website and got ordained, but of course he knows that no Catholic would accept that. It's called satire. |
Obvious for me, as a fact I had to explain to you, but not for all the visitors, not even for you, because you replied:that he was ordained by Internet as if it was truth.
The funny thing is that you protest (as we all do) for the violence of some Islamic Fundamentalist, but you provoke this reactions each time you make mockery of other people's beliefs
Of course only against Chrisrtians because you know we won't hurt you.
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
You said yourself that those wafers aren't really consecrated in your opinion, so where's the sacrilege?
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In the act of making mockery of the most sacred moment of Mass for us, the Consecration, while the other idiot makes noises and waves his arms as if we were some sort of UFO chasers.
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
It is a victimless crime. If you feel like a victim here, you seem like a child who is crying about someone making fun of Santa Claus. Is your faith that fragile? |
This is the most stupid reply I ever heard (using exactly the same term you used before), Santa Claus in not a divinity, our faith is not fragile, but you are showing great courage insulting us (because we only debate),.
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
You can have either freedom of speech or religious oppression here - you can't have your cake and eat it, too. Either I'm allowed to make fun of your religion, or you're allowed to forbid me to make fun of it. Personally I think it would be best if everyone was allowed to make fun of any crazy concept, while those who seriously believe it are allowed to do so undisturbed. And as soon as you enter the realm of public discussion, obviously you have to be able to tolerate some outspoken criticism. I can easily tolerate criticism, or religious people making fun of things that are important to me. They don't understand them, they're totally irrelevant to them - why shouldn't they be allowed to make fun of them, it's their right to do so.
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Freedom of speech? What freedom of Speech?
Guys like you are abusing of this privilege, you insult us and our beliefs, that goes far beyond freedom of speech.
And no, you are not that tolerant, I seen your reactions when people criticized your plans to split Prog Metal in various genres, you even left the site in (not in a passive way as you might remember).
As a fact you left or threatened us of leaving Prog Archives at least 5 times because people didn't agree with you (I have very good memory), and that was just music....Now, we protest for something that is transcendental for us and you say we overreact.
Please Mike you want a special and ultra strict set of rules for you, but freedom to insult the rest of the world's beliefs..
Iván
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CPicard
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Posted: July 22 2010 at 13:20 |
BaldFriede wrote:
The T wrote:
Sorry Trade but that sounds a little un-scientifical... All the german people i've met (my sister lives in Germany, I studied in a German School) are very different. You can't throw all of them in the same sack. Some are (think they are) perfect, some don't. Many accept errors and corrections, many don't.
Mike, of course, is God. We agreed on that. He's beyond all of this. |
Mike certainly behaves as if he thinks he is God. in one of his post he claimed "I am rational", which I considered to be especially funny. No human being is rational; we are all full of emotions which influence all we think and do.
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To be rational doesn't mean being logical and cold as a Vulcan.
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thellama73
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Posted: July 22 2010 at 13:20 |
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One reason I generally feel that religious people are on to something is that the religious people I know are far happier than the athiests I know, who tend to be rather gloomy. My personal worldview is closer to "life is a gift and the world is a magical place" than to "life is an accident and the world is a ball of rock." I'm not saying all atheists feel this way, but a great many of the ones I've known do.
Now I'm sure you'll respond "ignorance is bliss," but in my view any deep truth about the universe must help one to live a better life and part of living well is to be happy.
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: July 22 2010 at 13:22 |
BaldFriede wrote:
The T wrote:
Sorry Trade but that sounds a little un-scientifical... All the german people i've met (my sister lives in Germany, I studied in a German School) are very different. You can't throw all of them in the same sack. Some are (think they are) perfect, some don't. Many accept errors and corrections, many don't.
Mike, of course, is God. We agreed on that. He's beyond all of this. |
Mike certainly behaves as if he thinks he is God. in one of his post he claimed "I am rational", which I considered to be especially funny. No human being is rational; we are all full of emotions which influence all we think and do.
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Do you equate being rational with the divine now? That doesn't even begin to make sense to me. Rationality exists. If you're honestly going to cotinue spreading falsehoods like that I think of myself as either a God or a 100% rational person, then I dare you to find a post where I made any such claims. But why do I bother, you're clearly not interested in an argument. If you were, you would respond to the actual claims I make instead of these straw men and baseless accusations.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: July 22 2010 at 13:23 |
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
Indeed, I'm having a lot of problems with Iván in particular.
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Just with me.  I beieve you havenn't read the thread.
Iván
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: July 22 2010 at 13:24 |
The T wrote:
BaldFriede wrote:
The T wrote:
Sorry Trade but that sounds a little un-scientifical... All the german people i've met (my sister lives in Germany, I studied in a German School) are very different. You can't throw all of them in the same sack. Some are (think they are) perfect, some don't. Many accept errors and corrections, many don't.
Mike, of course, is God. We agreed on that. He's beyond all of this. |
Mike certainly behaves as if he thinks he is God. in one of his post he claimed "I am rational", which I considered to be especially funny. No human being is rational; we are all full of emotions which influence all we think and do.
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Those who proclaim they don't feel anything are the ones most consumed by their emotions... in many cases mis-adaptively directed towards themselves..
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Now you have two options: Either find a post which proves that I proclaimed that I don't feel anything, or admit that you made an error of (pre-)judgement. 
Edited by Mr ProgFreak - July 22 2010 at 13:24
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The T
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Posted: July 22 2010 at 13:24 |
The only certain, "settled" issue here: this forum would be 1/10 the fun without religious threads...
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The T
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Posted: July 22 2010 at 13:25 |
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
The T wrote:
BaldFriede wrote:
The T wrote:
Sorry Trade but that sounds a little un-scientifical... All the german people i've met (my sister lives in Germany, I studied in a German School) are very different. You can't throw all of them in the same sack. Some are (think they are) perfect, some don't. Many accept errors and corrections, many don't.
Mike, of course, is God. We agreed on that. He's beyond all of this. |
Mike certainly behaves as if he thinks he is God. in one of his post he claimed "I am rational", which I considered to be especially funny. No human being is rational; we are all full of emotions which influence all we think and do.
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Those who proclaim they don't feel anything are the ones most consumed by their emotions... in many cases mis-adaptively directed towards themselves..
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Now you have two options: Either find a post which proves that I don't feel anything, or admit that you made an error of (pre-)judgement.
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I'm not talking about you in my last comment Mike... 
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: July 22 2010 at 13:27 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
Indeed, I'm having a lot of problems with Iván in particular.
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Just with me. I beieve you havenn't read the thread.
Iván |
Some day even you will understand the concept of irony ... I have strong faith in that.
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: July 22 2010 at 13:28 |
The T wrote:
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
The T wrote:
BaldFriede wrote:
The T wrote:
Sorry Trade but that sounds a little un-scientifical... All the german people i've met (my sister lives in Germany, I studied in a German School) are very different. You can't throw all of them in the same sack. Some are (think they are) perfect, some don't. Many accept errors and corrections, many don't.
Mike, of course, is God. We agreed on that. He's beyond all of this. |
Mike certainly behaves as if he thinks he is God. in one of his post he claimed "I am rational", which I considered to be especially funny. No human being is rational; we are all full of emotions which influence all we think and do.
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Those who proclaim they don't feel anything are the ones most consumed by their emotions... in many cases mis-adaptively directed towards themselves..
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Now you have two options: Either find a post which proves that I don't feel anything, or admit that you made an error of (pre-)judgement.
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I'm not talking about you in my last comment Mike... |
Then you hijacked the wrong context, and I admit my error of (pre-)judgement. It also comes in handy to prove that unpleasant Trademark lurker wrong. 
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: July 22 2010 at 13:29 |
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: July 22 2010 at 13:30 |
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
Indeed, I'm having a lot of problems with Iván in particular.
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Just with me. I beieve you havenn't read the thread.
Iván |
Some day even you will understand the concept of irony ... I have strong faith in that.
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Kettle..pot?
Iván
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thellama73
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Posted: July 22 2010 at 13:30 |
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
Indeed, I'm having a lot of problems with Iván in particular.
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Just with me. I beieve you havenn't read the thread.
Iván |
Some day even you will understand the concept of irony ... I have strong faith in that.
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Irony... that's what you do to get wrinkles out of clothes, right?
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The T
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Posted: July 22 2010 at 13:31 |
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BaldFriede
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Posted: July 22 2010 at 13:36 |
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Another thing I find funny is that from the fact there are contradictions in the bible Mike concludes that it can used to prove anything. Imagine a book in which a bunch of top scientists who have different opinions on a certain matter all explained their positions in a single book. That book would be full of contradictions. But would it really be useless, as Mike claims the bible is?
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BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
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Trademark
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Posted: July 22 2010 at 13:36 |
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"Mike, of course, is God. We agreed on that."
No, No, No. DAWKINS is God. Hitchens, Ehrmann, harris, et al., are disciples.
Mike is just a lowly aposlte.
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