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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Green Desert is entirely Edgar & Chris because Peter was off on one of his "jaunts." The album became a point of contention for many fans because it was the fifth LP in the box set ...In the Beginning. Relativity and Jive Electro stated the "bonus" album Green Desert would not get a separate release — which, of course, it did.

Personally, I love every square sonic inch of Green Desert and could care less how much was done in '73 or '84!
Yes I love it too. Every square sonic inch. Nevertheless I'd find it somewhat interesting if it's "purely" a 1973-recording. Because if that is so, I'd say it's a very much a foreshadowing album. Both for Tangerine Dream and for electronic music in general.

Green Desert was definitely "finished" in 1984, the earliest instance of what would later be dubbed "tangentizing" (adding new sounds to an older recording).

Chris had long since ceased playing an actual drumkit, so the side-length title track certainly dates to 1973. The low-mixed pulse-loop sounds modern and so do the synths. The guitar line is up in the air.

"White Clouds" is likely fifty-fifty: again, real drums, but the melody is modern and mirrors their Schmoelling-era sound aptly. Engaging, either way,

The last two pieces, "Astral Voyager" and "Indian Summer," invite even more speculation. I think "Indian Summer" may even be a purely modern piece because it sounds like it would be right at home on Froese's solo album Pinnacles., which was released in '83.
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4 stars 1978: Cyclone - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQKJL9K1MLY
 
Following the departure of long-time member Peter Baumann in 1977, a fresh wind of change was blowing through Tangerine Dream with the release of their 11th album: Cyclone. This album is notable for featuring the unique trio of Edgar Froese, Chris Franke & English musician Steve Jolliffe, and somewhat controversially, it was the first Tangerine Dream album to feature vocals (provided by Steve Jolliffe), which wouldn't be heard on a Tangerine Dream album again until "Tyger" in 1987. Tangerine Dream fans may have fallen out of their chairs in shock upon  hearing vocals for the first time on this album back in 1978, but Cyclone has now come to be regarded as a much-loved classic in the Tangerine Dream canon, and deservedly so too in my view. Thumbs Up 
 
 
Track Listing:-
 
1. Bent Cold Sidewalk (13:05)
2. Rising Runner Missed by Endless Sender (5:00)
3. Madrigal Meridian (20:28)
 


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5 stars 1979: Force Majeure - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afqgm3CzzQY
 
Tangerine Dream were essentially a duo (consisting of Edgar Froese & Chris Franke) by the time of the recording of their 12th album: Force Majeure. They were still a major force to be reckoned with though, as this is arguably Tangerine Dream's most melodic album so far and a firm favourite amongst English fans where it remains their fourth best-selling album in the UK. Tangerine Dream were destined to become a keyboard trio again when Johannes Schmoelling (born 1950) joined the band as a long-term member for the recording of their next album: Tangram, marking  the beginning of a new era and a new decade for Tangerine Dream. Heart
 
I played Force Majeure endlessly when I first bought the album back in 1979, which didn't annoy my parents nearly as much as when I played Motorhead's Ace of Spades album endlessly the following year. Tongue
 
 
Track Listing:-
 
1. Force Majeure (18:17)
2. Cloudburst Flight (7:27)
3. Thru Metamorphic Rocks (14:30)

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The story so far, marking the end of an era for Tangerine Dream, and the end of a decade for the rest of us. Smile
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It's not easy just to keep one busy. Confused
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


It's not easy just to keep one busy. Confused

You don't appear to be having any trouble filling your time here so far. Wink
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4 stars 1980: Tangram - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQpAJUZeIAY
 
Tangram is the 13th album overall and marks the beginning of a new era for Tangerine Dream with new member Johannes Schmoelling joining the band to make it a Tangram trio again. This is the last studio album where the title track traditionally occupies two full sides of an album. The 1980's heralded the beginning of the "short track" period for Tangerine Dream and is also fondly remembered now as their soundtrack decade, including such notable movie scores as:- Thief (1981); Wavelength (1983); Risky Business (1984); Firestarter (1984); Flashpoint (1984); Heartbreakers (1984); Legend (1986); Three O'Clock High (1987); Near Dark (1988): Shy People (1988); Miracle Mile (1989); & Destination Berlin (1989). All in all then, a VERY busy decade for Tangerine Dream with barely any time left over for celebrating their success down at the local Bierkeller. Smile
 


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4 stars 1981: Quichotte - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aOHeg3XitM
 
Quichotte (re-released as "Pergamon" in 1986) is Tangerine Dream's 14th album overall and their third Live album. Quichotte was recorded in January 1980 at the Palace der Republic in former East Berlin, which has long-since closed down. Nearby is the famed Pergamon Museum, hence the later re-titling of the album. If some of the music on Quichotte sounds strangely familiar, then that may be because some of the music from the concert was incorporated into their Tangram studio album later that same year. Smile
 
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Tangerine Dream - Signals from the Schwabischen Strasse: a German documentary film from 1976 (with English subtitles) featuring the classic TD trio of Edgar Froese, Chris Franke & Peter Baumann, talking about their music and showcasing works in progress at the time. Notable commentators in the documentary include Richard Branson, John Peel, Monique Froese and some chap called Miles. The documentary title refers to the street in Berlin where Edgar Froese used to live, and apparently, Klaus Schulze used to live on the same street at the time. Crikey! I thought some of our northern towns in England looked pretty grim, but towns don't get much greyer and grimmer than East Berlin. By the way, I should have posted this documentary earlier, as we're already well into the third Tangerine Dream era now, but better late than never, eh. Embarrassed



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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

4 stars 1981: Quichotte - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aOHeg3XitM
 
Quichotte (re-released as "Pergamon" in 1986) is Tangerine Dream's 14th album overall and their third Live album. Quichotte was recorded in January 1980 at the Palace der Republic in former East Berlin, which has long-since closed down. Nearby is the famed Pergamon Museum, hence the later re-titling of the album. If some of the music on Quichotte sounds strangely familiar, then that may be because some of the music from the concert was incorporated into their Tangram studio album later that same year. Smile

I love this album and I love the unabridged concert even more! Clap
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4 stars 1981: Thief (soundtrack) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUSBecv08D8
 
Thief is Tangerine Dream's 15th album overall and their second film score (after "Sorcerer" in 1977). Thief is a crime drama (no surprise there) directed by Michael Mann (of "Miami Vice" fame) and stars James Caan. Bizarrely, the soundtrack was nominated for the Golden Raspberry Award for worst movie score of 1981, but what the hell do they know!? I've seen the movie AND bought the soundtrack too (which was a steal at £3.99) and for any Tangerine Dream fans who've seen that movie too, you'll know that the soaring synth score really adds to the dark atmosphere of one of James Caan's finest movies. Thumbs Up
 

Track Listing:-

1. Beach Theme (3:44)
2. Dr. Destructo (3:18)
3. Diamond Diary (10:48)
4. Burning Bar (3:11)
5. Beach Scene (6:48)
6. Scrap Yard (4:40)
7. Trap Feeling (2:57)
8. Igneous (4:45)


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

The 1980's heralded the beginning of the "short track" period for Tangerine Dream and is also fondly remembered now as their soundtrack decade, including such notable movie scores as:- Thief (1981); Wavelength (1983); Risky Business (1984); Firestarter (1984); Flashpoint (1984); Heartbreakers (1984); Legend (1986); Three O'Clock High (1987); Near Dark (1988): Shy People (1988); Miracle Mile (1989); & Destination Berlin (1989).[/tube]

Another soundtrack was for the Michael Mann film "The Keep". This, along with "Force Majeure" and "White Eagle" is one of my favorite Tangerine Dream releases.








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Originally posted by Hugh Manatee Hugh Manatee wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

The 1980's heralded the beginning of the "short track" period for Tangerine Dream and is also fondly remembered now as their soundtrack decade, including such notable movie scores as:- Thief (1981); Wavelength (1983); Risky Business (1984); Firestarter (1984); Flashpoint (1984); Heartbreakers (1984); Legend (1986); Three O'Clock High (1987); Near Dark (1988): Shy People (1988); Miracle Mile (1989); & Destination Berlin (1989).[/tube]

Another soundtrack was for the Michael Mann film "The Keep". This, along with "Force Majeure" and "White Eagle" is one of my favorite Tangerine Dream releases.

Thanks. I'll Keep a look-out for it. Thumbs Up
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3 stars 1981: Exit - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n5iNx2K3w6FppjVtryJQqXm_tUf19gdeg
 
Exit is Tangerine Dream's 16th album overall, their 11th studio album and the third album released in 1981. Following in the footsteps of the Thief soundtrack, Exit is the second album to feature more uptempo dance-beats (heavily influenced by new member Johannes Schmoelling). Other than the excellent opening track "Kiev Mission" there's nothing really memorable for me on this album I'm afraid, so I can only give it a reasonably good 3-star rating.. I'm going to make a hasty dash for the Exit now before I get lynched by Tangerine Dream fans. Tongue
 
 
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1. Kiev Mission (9:18)
2. Pilots of Purple Twilight (4:19)
3. Choronzon (4:07)
4. Exit (5:33)
5. Network 23 (4:55)
6. Remote Viewing (8:20)


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That's a very good thread, you're getting here, Paul. Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


That's a very good thread, you're getting here, Paul. Thumbs Up
Thanks David. I still have a long way to go, as the White Eagle flies....
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

 3 stars 1981: Exit - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n5iNx2K3w6FppjVtryJQqXm_tUf19gdeg
 
Exit is Tangerine Dream's 16th album overall, their 11th studio album and the third album released in 1981. Following in the footsteps of the Thief soundtrack, Exit is the second album to feature more uptempo dance-beats (heavily influenced by new member Johannes Schmoelling). Other than the excellent opening track "Kiev Mission" there's nothing really memorable for me on this album I'm afraid, so I can only give it a reasonably good 3-star rating.. I'm going to make a hasty dash for the Exit now before I get lynched by Tangerine Dream fans. Tongue

1. Kiev Mission (9:18)
2. Pilots of Purple Twilight (4:19)
3. Choronzon (4:07)
4. Exit (5:33)
5. Network 23 (4:55)
6. Remote Viewing (8:20)

We're definitely on opposite sides of the river with this one, chum. Exit is a superb album. It's a showcase for the rich sounds of the PPG Wave 2, Oberheim OB-X, Moog Minimoog, and the emerging sampling technologies of the time. While Tangram has a more uppity feel, Exit comes at you with brooding themes, like the menacing title track, the warning of "Kiew Mission," and the urgency of "Choronzon" (I'd love to know who chose to title it after a demon). It was a staple of the early '80s concerts (but usually 2X longer). Overall, I've always gleaned an ambiguously SF air about this particular album. "Network 23" is brilliant, with a tempo that never lets up as the melody plays hopscotch with the sequence, capped by the famous "seagull" effect. Finally, "Remote Viewing" is one of the best ambient pieces ever assembled, with PPG Wave 2 sounds guiding you through an spectral landscape while a flute melody acts as the proverbial candle. It gives me chills. Clap
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^ I'm glad you like Exit. I like the album too, but not as much as their previous 11 albums. Smile
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We're definitely on opposite sides of the river with this one, chum. Exit is a superb album. It's a showcase for the rich sounds of the PPG Wave 2, Oberheim OB-X, Moog Minimoog, and the emerging sampling technologies of the time. While Tangram has a more uppity feel, Exit comes at you with brooding themes, like the menacing title track, the warning of "Kiew Mission," and the urgency of "Choronzon" (I'd love to know who chose to title it after a demon). It was a staple of the early '80s concerts (but usually 2X longer). Overall, I've always gleaned an ambiguously SF air about this particular album. "Network 23" is brilliant, with a tempo that never lets up as the melody plays hopscotch with the sequence, capped by the famous "seagull" effect. Finally, "Remote Viewing" is one of the best ambient pieces ever assembled, with PPG Wave 2 sounds guiding you through an spectral landscape while a flute melody acts as the proverbial candle. It gives me chills. Clap

Nice posting, I like Exit a lot as well and you remind me that it deserves more spins.
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4 stars 1982: White Eagle - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJudKHrNg6M
 
Tangerine Dream are flying high again with White Eagle - their 17th album overall and a real return to form, including one long track occupying Side 1 of the album and three shorter pieces of music on Side 2 with the title track being a real highlight of the album for me. The album's upbeat, it's catchy, and very 1980's, just like the "Hammer-time" music you might have heard played on Miami Vice for instance.
Enjoy the concert. Thumbs Up
 
 
 
Track Listing:-
 
1. Mojave Plan (20:06)
2. Midnight in Tula (3:52)
3. Convention of the 24 (9:24)
4. White Eagle (4:30)


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