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DisgruntledPorcupine ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 16 2010 Location: Thunder Bay CAN Status: Offline Points: 4395 |
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The_Jester ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 29 2010 Status: Offline Points: 741 |
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Amarok.
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JasonL ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: November 15 2010 Location: Richmond Status: Offline Points: 24 |
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I think there's a sense in which the "song"/"track"/"suite"/etc. terminology we're using is kind of a relic of recording technology. Thick As A Brick is clearly one song, but it's traditionally been listed as two because of the way vinyl works. Plus, what you're recording it on sets limits: forty-five minutes in the vinyl era, seventy-five or so for the CD era. Since record labels aren't ready to give up entirely on CDs yet (with good reason - people do still buy them), it seems like that's the limit for professionally published music for right now. But there must be some band out there with a ninety-minute, two-hour song on mp3! Where?
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rod65 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 28 2010 Status: Offline Points: 248 |
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I was going to suggest "compositions" or "tracks" as well. I like "compositions" because this refers to the artistry that goes into them rather than merely to space on a disk. |
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Cosmiclawnmower ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2010 Location: West Country,UK Status: Offline Points: 4019 |
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Didnt the Grateful Dead do songs that went on for days??
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stonebeard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
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Pretty sure Robert Rich's Somnium counts. It's a 7-hour song in 3 parts.
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dave-the-rave ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2006 Location: NY metro area Status: Offline Points: 276 |
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La Monte Young and the Forever Bad Blues Band - "Young's Dorian Blues in G" from Just Stompin': Live at the Kitchen (I have this, and it's one live piece that needs 2 CD's to contain it. I thought it was an hour and 20 minutes or so, but the RS review says '2 hours.' I'll check tonight when I get home.)
Young recorded Just Stompin': Live at the Kitchen with his band in 1993. Clearly influenced by the blues of John Lee Hooker and John Coltrane, the album also somewhat resembled the work of the Velvet Underground and modern rock experimentalists Sonic Youth. David Fricke gave the album four stars in his review in Rolling Stone. "Two hours, one song (never mind 'song,' one chord progression), no break—and zero boredom," noted Fricke. In his review of Just Stompin'in the Detroit Metro Times, Jurek said, "The band plays dynamically, from soft to hard and back, gradually building in both intensity and tension, laying back just enough—without letting the air out—to allowthe musicians (and listeners) to breathe and start again, until the music reaches an unbearable pitch [that] shatters all divisions between blues, Indian classical music, punk, heavy metal, grunge, modal jazz and noise, because it's all of them and none of them at once." Some more about the piece here, if anyone is interested: http://melafoundation.org/fbbpress.htm Edited by dave-the-rave - November 16 2010 at 13:29 |
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Ronnie Pilgrim ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 09 2010 Location: The South of TX Status: Offline Points: 771 |
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The Top 40 drivel I overheard and is now stuck in my head. I can't tell you the exact length of it, but it seems to go on forever.
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firstlensman ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: September 12 2008 Location: Middletown, NY Status: Offline Points: 34 |
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Yes, The Whirlwind IS one song just as Requiem by Mozart (for example), which has 14 movements, is considered one work (K. 626). I have The Whirlwind in one MP3 file (300mps) on my I-Pod.
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"Forever caught in desert lands, one has to learn to disbelieve the sea" |
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Elderflower Man ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 05 2009 Status: Offline Points: 155 |
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Technically, I mean length, although definitely discuss the stuff that just takes too long. It'd be good for a laugh.
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All your hearts now seem so far from me,
It hardly seems to matter now. |
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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Are we talking length or stuff that just seems to take too long?
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Mr. Maestro ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 05 2010 Location: Knowhere, USA Status: Offline Points: 918 |
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Personally, I think it all depends on whether or not the artists intended the piece to be taken as a single song or simply an extended, lengthy conceptual piece. I always thought of The Whirlwind as a single song myself, just with track divisions to mark the transitions between movements.
Outside of that, though, the longest single-track song I've ever heard is Galleon's "The Ocean," which was discussed pretty heavily on the first page. I agree with everything that was said - the lyrics are fairly lousy, but the instrumental work is fantastic.
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"I am the one who crossed through space...or stayed where I was...or didn't exist in the first place...."
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RoeDent ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: September 08 2009 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 850 |
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It's all about context. You have to read comments by the band as to whether they consider something like Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (for example) to be a single piece of music or seperate songs. |
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JasonL ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: November 15 2010 Location: Richmond Status: Offline Points: 24 |
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If live jams count, then John Coltrane's version of "My Favorite Things" on Live in Japan is about 57 minutes. And Phish once did a version of "Runaway Jim" that went 58 minutes. It seems to me that this is a different kind of thing, though, than a planned composition.
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Textbook ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 08 2009 Status: Offline Points: 3281 |
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I don't consider The Whirlwind a song because there are clear divisions in it. It doesn't trundle along continuously from beginning to end. You can feel one tune stopping and another one starting.
I mean by this token any album without gaps between tracks is song.
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Kazuhiro ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 14 2009 Location: Tokyo, Japan Status: Offline Points: 1336 |
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"Interlude/Theme From Jack Johnson" collected in Agharta of Miles Davis is 56 seconds for one hour.
The name of a song has adhered separately. However, it will be able to be interpreted as a set.
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clarke2001 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 14 2006 Location: Croatia Status: Offline Points: 4160 |
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This. And it's one hell of a song.
A honourable mention goes to song/album Requiem Apocalyptique by Guillaume de la Pilliere. Very good, too. |
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Earendil ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 17 2008 Location: Indiana, USA Status: Offline Points: 1584 |
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![]() That's actually the link for my signature right now ![]() |
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Mushroom Sword ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 28 2010 Status: Offline Points: 426 |
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Lol it reminds me of this...
![]() Edit: From Here: http://www.cracked.com/funny-2359-progressive-rock/ Which is where I got my name from. Edited by Mushroom Sword - November 15 2010 at 19:58 |
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Earendil ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 17 2008 Location: Indiana, USA Status: Offline Points: 1584 |
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Isn't The Whirlwind a single song divided into sections? That's how I've always thought of it... The live one track version is 80 minutes.
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