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Slartibartfast 
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 Posted: November 22 2010 at 09:42 |
 friso wrote:
I'm 22 and I only listen to late sixties and seventies prog. I simply can't get into modern prog since I really love the sound of vinyls and the seventies sound. My parents didn't influence me at all in becoming a proggy. I downloaded Arena's Contagion due to a metal-magazine and slowly grew into the classic prog after downloading (as a leap of faith) the KC debut. I now own over 300 vinyls of prog and prog-related. It has become my major hobby next to playing guitar. |
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Dean
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Posted: November 22 2010 at 09:48 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
friso wrote:
I'm 22 and I only listen to late sixties and seventies prog. I simply can't get into modern prog since I really love the sound of vinyls and the seventies sound. My parents didn't influence me at all in becoming a proggy. I downloaded Arena's Contagion due to a metal-magazine and slowly grew into the classic prog after downloading (as a leap of faith) the KC debut. I now own over 300 vinyls of prog and prog-related. It has become my major hobby next to playing guitar. |
Hey, you're not older that 40, let's beat him up.
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got to bloody catch the little blighter first.
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Hawkwise
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Posted: November 22 2010 at 09:49 |
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Jim Garten
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Posted: November 22 2010 at 10:04 |
My nurse didn't come round but luckily there were no witnesses...
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octopus-4
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Posted: November 22 2010 at 10:14 |
I'm 48 and since when I listened to Echoes and Atom Heart Mother I've been looking for music able to give me similar feelings. My first prog album has been Trilogy and the second Aqualung (after purchasing a stereo). In the 80s I loved Marillion and I stopped in the 90s when I got married. Only because I used my money to pay the mortgage instead of buying music. Now I'm happy to "research". I like early 70s psychedelia as well as bands like Ayreon (and Lucassen's side projects), Spock's Beard, Mostly Autumn. This morining I went at work listening to Senmuth and I have recently rated 5 stars the Xing Sa debut.
So even though I'm always happy to relisten to the 70s classics I like looking for new stuff (or obscure old stuff).
I'm sure that nobody will care about what I have written because it is longer than 10 words, so I can write whatever I want...  |
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akajazzman
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Posted: November 22 2010 at 10:40 |
yanch wrote:
cobb2 wrote:
After reading all this I have had a bit of an epiphany about my observations of peers and oldies who like prog (of whom I don't personally know any).
Proggies were trained early to search for new music (this was even harder before the digital age- endless trips to records shops etc), while the greater masses of music fans (the U2, Bon Jovi lovers) had it fed to them through the media, so they never learned how to search.
So, the searchers were more open to music they had never heard and this becomes a life long trait, while the spoon fed, non-searchers, were left listening to music that they could no longer relate to- commercial music is, after all, written to target the youth.
Does this make sense? |
Yes! This does make sense!  Sites like PA and CDBaby, etc. have allowed me to find music that I never would have been exposed to. A little time spent searching has become more interesting music to enjoy!  |
Cobb, I think it makes perfect sense, and I think its by-and-large true. The folks that I know that only listen to radio, or worse, nothing at all, were never musical searchers. They basically took what was spoon fed them.
Another interesting – but related -- point, is this thread shows *just* how musically interested Prog lovers stay well into their 60s, and not just for Prog but for all types of music. Not that this was the crux of the argument critics made against Prog back in the day, but the implication back then was that Progsters were stogy old dinosaurs with no vitality. This thread shows that we’re still kickin hard, and that the music we loved back then is a new inspiration to many youngsters today!
AtomicCrimsonRush also makes an interesting point about “writing”. Its been proven that thoughtful writing and reading can help stave off senility….so once again, our music is going to not let us down! ;-)
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Bonnek
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Posted: November 22 2010 at 11:14 |
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I'll be 40 in two months so I probably don't count yet for this thread.
In the early 80s I was prog-fed by my older brother and then quickly moved on to post-punk, metal, indie, kraut, techno, fusion,... well anything, as long as it has personality, ideas and good execution.
In 30 years I haven't changed my passion nor my criteria really, and I don't expect to slow down enjoying the good old tunes and discovering new ones anytime soon.
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GaryB
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Posted: November 22 2010 at 11:25 |
I was a radio listener in the 60s but was definitely a searcher in the 70s. There was a lot to consider when searching for new bands. As I flipped through the rows of miscellaneuos LPs I would look at the covers more than the titles. When something caught my eye, I would turn it over and look for familiar names of band members, producers and even engineers but you also have to look for guest musicians. I would check out what instruments each member played and song titles. If the titles contained a familiar cover song, you might get an idea of the type of music the band was influenced by.
These days with the interrnet, this could all be done in about five minutes.
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Syzygy
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Posted: November 22 2010 at 11:35 |
Coming up to 49 and still finding new stuff to enjoy - I've always gone for the more experimental side of prog (and jazz, post punk and numerous other genres) and I hope I never stop picking up on and getting into music that pushes some kind of envelope.
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom
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Tony R
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Posted: November 22 2010 at 11:38 |
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I used to love pouring over album sleeves reading the lyrics and credits. Now I don't bother, the writing on CD inserts is too small for my ageing eyes.
Those 60s and 70s albums felt like something substantial and certainly "serious" rock bands put a lot of time and effort into the design, many were works of art.
Friends, or should I say the older siblings of friends, were my chief source of recommendations followed by the radio, Sounds/Melody Maker music papers and the odd TV show. We would share music then, in the form of cassette tapes, just as people do now and it never seemed to harm the bands. That said we would always go out and buy the albums we liked and support those bands. Nowadays many people just download and never buy hard copies. Shame really.
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Hawkwise
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Posted: November 22 2010 at 12:46 |
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Hawkwise
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jammun
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Posted: November 22 2010 at 12:47 |
I grew up listening to the 60's/70's music. It was a magic time. These days, I try to listen to music being made currently, but just as often find myself going back, to Bob Wills and Western swing,and to the bands of the 30's and 40's. This stuff:
It all sounds like a Merrie Melodies cartoon. Throw in a little Count Basie and it's good.
Procol's Broken Barricades should be showing up in the mail today.
My problem or actually probably disease is that I love music. I love to listen to it. I love to play it. I love the beautiful symmetry of a those keys on a piano or that fretboard on a guitar. It's been a lifelong sickness of sorts since I was old enough to hear it and my mom bought me my first record player, say 55 years ago. I destroyed a lot of records. The cassette player ate a lot of tapes. And through it all I listened and played. Still doing it.
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Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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ergaster
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Posted: November 22 2010 at 14:48 |
octopus-4 wrote:
I'm 48 and since when I listened to Echoes and Atom Heart Mother I've been looking for music able to give me similar feelings. My first prog album has been Trilogy and the second Aqualung (after purchasing a stereo). In the 80s I loved Marillion and I stopped in the 90s when I got married. Only because I used my money to pay the mortgage instead of buying music. Now I'm happy to "research". I like early 70s psychedelia as well as bands like Ayreon (and Lucassen's side projects), Spock's Beard, Mostly Autumn. This morining I went at work listening to Senmuth and I have recently rated 5 stars the Xing Sa debut.
So even though I'm always happy to relisten to the 70s classics I like looking for new stuff (or obscure old stuff).
I'm sure that nobody will care about what I have written because it is longer than 10 words, so I can write whatever I want... |
I like to think we old farts have somewhat longer attention spans. I could be wrong, though.... 
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: November 22 2010 at 15:00 |
Dean wrote:
got to bloody catch the little blighter first.
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Dagnabbit!! The young whippersnapper ran off. You kids stay off our lawns!!! 
Edited by Slartibartfast - November 22 2010 at 15:02
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verslibre
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Posted: November 22 2010 at 16:42 |
Bonnek wrote:
I'll be 40 in two months so I probably don't count yet for this thread. |
I could've said that till recent;y. Bummer. I still listen to most of the stuff I listened to growing up, and more fusion, plus newer prog acts (though I can't get into stuff like PRR).
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Bitterblogger
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Posted: November 22 2010 at 16:49 |
As long as they're female. . .
This relative old fart (53) has a special place in his heart for the golden era prog bands, and I'll always appreciate Yes, my personal pioneer, and I find that my musical enjoyment is split among bands from that time, newer prog (Porcupine Tree and Radiohead are currently being explored; I usually do an immersion with only a couple at a time to get good exposure), jazz (all kinds except "smooth"  ) and classical (not the well-known established masterpieces, but the lesser known works by the old masters and newer faces).
My daughter is 20 now, and she's found a little in the Prog era she enjoys (apart from humoring me), but as for every generation, she's into bands from succeeding generations more. But she adores Billie Holiday, and the Coasters, so she'll be a generalist like her old man. . .
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Tony R
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Posted: November 22 2010 at 17:01 |
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akajazzman
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Posted: November 22 2010 at 17:26 |
Everyone, thanks so much chiming in so fast. We went to 5 pages in just a couple of days. I’ve been re-reading everyone’s comments a few times, since there’s a bit of a life story in all these summaries. And I can relate to so much of what y’all have said. A couple of enlightening moments for me in this stuff.
1) I don’t feel as old as I used to, we’ve got a 65 year "young" gentleman rockin’ the house!
2) us older dogs (that are still into music) are not just as musically adventurous as the youngsters but can be, and often are, more adventurous. Our ears have had years to attune to all sorts of musical shapes and colors.
3) old dogs aren’t afraid of some pretty heavy shredding. We’re not your typical “turn that noise down” style codgers! But we may be a little leery of some Prog-metal when it gets “samey” sounding. In turn, my 18 year old is always telling me to turn it down so he can hear his damn video games. Of course that just bugs me, so I crank it louder! …. Some things never change! 
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progpositivity
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Posted: November 22 2010 at 17:42 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
I'm continually impressed by the old farts here that are into newer stuff and the young farts that are into the older stuff. Keeps things interesting, you know...
The number of young folks who got into prog thanks to one or both of their parent's prog collection are interesting. Makes me feel kind of old and I haven't had children, but I'm pretty sure they would be prog fans.
So anyone here have kids that just despise prog or just don't get it?
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I'm 47 with a 13 year old son. Almost ever since I can remember, he has constantly joked with me as though he hates Progressive Rock. But as he has grown older, more and more often I catch him watching Genesis videos on Youtube or listening to music from my collection! 
It was almost as though he had been subconsciously testing me to see whether I would become some type of tyranical authority figure or not. Kids really need to develop their own sense of identity and the last thing they want is their parents to dictate to them what is "good" and "bad" in music.
The biggest difference I find is that he isn't as "wired" for music as I am. He's much more "multi-media" and "user-interactive" minded than I am when it comes to music.
I suspect that there are some roots pointing toward a "generation gap" here. For example, about one year ago, one of the "20-something year old" workers I supervised, upon discovering that I was really into music, asked me the following questions: "So... you go to a concert and just sit there and listen to people play music? What else do you do while you are there? Isn't that boring?"
He was really into video games and it genuinely seemed to me as though he was straining to figure out where the "interactive element" was. If there had been a way for him to vote in real-time about whether he wanted the tempo to speed up or slow down, he might be pursuaded to give the whole idea a chance. Or if there was going to be a story acted out on-stage with special effects on a huge screen, then perhaps that could interest him. But just people on a stage playing music? He didn't seem to think that would hold his attention.
That is an extreme example, of course. Many younger listeners like music without video and without interactive participation. But I do think there is often something akin to a generational division of perception lurking here.
Hmm... Come to think of it, in this regard, games like Guitar Hero have become very successful inter-generational communication tools!
Edited by progpositivity - November 22 2010 at 18:01
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