"Freedom" thread or something - Progressive Rock Music Forum

I liked the spirit of the article. The American Thinker usually makes sense in many ways though their foreign policy views are too imperialist and neo-con-ish sometimes.

"There are limits to Obama’s gift of empathy. He appears untroubled by the fact that because of his criminal actions, Abdulrahman al-Awlaki’s mother has been deprived of both her son and her husband. He is living proof of the fact that the deadliest sociopaths aren’t the ones who dye their hair red and identify with comic book nihilists."

http://lewrockwell.com/grigg/grigg-w270.html

Time always wins.

The comments section on this one is pretty funny.

https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays

^Well, maybe not safer but soon thinner at least. You know, the whole NY soda thing, Bloomberg out-nanny-ing most nannies. NY will not be safe but will be damned thin.

Yes, that is correct. People need those extra carbohydrates to combat rising crime. What diet do you think Batman is on, vegan? Bloomberg will kill the vigilane business

^eh... I thought we had one already.

Both notions that the police need us to keep them safe and that the police keep us safe make me laugh a little bit inside. Good. Let them strike.

"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "

This comes out of nowhere, but I'm reading a paper for my last class ever, a paper about emerging adulthood (a theory used to describe the not-yet-adults of today's world) and I read this paragraph about some European societies regarding freedom, not the same freedom Americans (especially libertarians and alike) tend to defend:

"Indeed, ‘‘freedom’’ is a concept spoken about by the young in many of these countries, but its meaning varies. Norwegian youth, for example, seem to associate freedom largely with independence from the parental home (Ravn, 2005, p. 41). In contrast, young people in Spain associate freedom with a lack of economic and social responsibility. In interviews in city after city, many told me that they were staying single in order to be ‘‘free,’’ by which they meant free to go out, to socialize, and to travel. They also said that they stay in the parental home until they are 30 or 35 years old because this arrangement makes it easier for them to experience this freedom than would their being on their own (especially in a country with the highest youth unemployment in the European Union). Among the advantages they cite for staying in the family home are food, laundry, ironing, and access to computers and cars. Their view is, Why would I leave home? As one young person expressed it, ‘‘We want freedom, but it’s a comfortable freedom’’ (Douglass, 2005b)"

Isn't it sad if the US is moving in the same direction? In the end, the old social-democratic dogma of "freedom from want" has replaced actual freedom in one part of the world, at least in a big percentage of the population. This really casts a bad light for the future of actual liberty.

Edited by The T - July 26 2012 at 11:21

Don't we all want freedom from economic responsibility? I'm not siding with the general attitude, but just examining that statement I cannot disagree with it.

"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "

As an anarchist, this makes me mad. As a mathematician, this makes me cry.

Banning Buckyballs

"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "