The 2010 NFL Season Thread

Equality 7-2521 wrote: manofmystery wrote: Equality 7-2521 wrote: manofmystery wrote: JJLehto wrote: Would prefer playing the team that beat the Pats eh? I wanted a Packer/Jets SB but now I am almost sure of it. Maybe a close game, but the Jets are better then the Steelers and playing out of their minds right now.     How exactly? The only thing they have on the Steelers is a better secondary. The really big difference in these teams is that the Steelers have a QB with two rings and the Jets have a QB in his second year with an 0-1 record in championship games.  Much better offensive line for the Jets.     I'd give them that, on paper.  They haven't had to block against a team with an actual pass rush in the last two weeks, though, whereas the Steelers' line had to handle Baltimore.  I don't see Sanchez having the same pocket he did this week which for him, in a game this big, could present problems.  Ben, on the other hand, is used to making plays, in huge games, while running for his life. I agree, but the O-Line is more than just better on paper. It plays better. They probably have the second best center in the game this season.  They are really outmatched at QB. I don't like Ben, but he's much better than Sanchez especially at extending plays.

 

Yes, Big Ben is much better.
I think we all agree it'll be a tight game, and hopefully a good one.


Pouncey was good, no doubt and it's tough to rank o-linemen but Nick Mangold is up their with the best.


Edited by JJLehto - January 16 2011 at 22:37

Equality 7-2521 wrote: Not from the games I've seen him play. Profootball focus actually named him the worst probowl selection.

Oh snap.
What? Even worse than O'Hara who played 6 games? And when he did play was worse then the guard who filled his spot?

Equality 7-2521 wrote: See here Ray Lewis is on the list which should make MoM happy though.

I agree with Lewis (though he's borderline) as well as Steven Jackson, though I like him a lot and DeAngelo Hall and Gonzalez.
Timmons really should have been in the Pro Bowl.
Actually, a good amount of pro bowlers are undeserving IMO.




Edited by JJLehto - January 16 2011 at 23:00

Sorry Pat, I worded that horribly. Fixed.

So bored, must resist urge to make my own pro bowl list.

Although some of those stats they gave were impressive and not as readily available so it's difficult.

Trent Cole had a great year, but was he a top 2 DE? (For a 4-3 system)

I wish I had the number on how many hits/pressures they all had but for right now using nfl.com John Abraham had more sacks, and Justin Tuck has more sacks, overall tackles, and forced fumbles. If Cole made it on though can't say it'd really be an upset. I don't think I'm happy with Julius Peppers making it...


Edited by JJLehto - January 16 2011 at 23:09

Equality 7-2521 wrote: Best 4-3 DE in the NFC. Never seen a DE play the run like he does.

Hmmm that is another interesting point to take into consideration, but how can that be determined? Watch every game of ever team and note how well they push back/get around tackles or move the runner around?

We need a dedicated team of people doing all this just to make an accurate pro bowl!

We need a team doing just that though, so our pro bowl can be 100% accurate! It may be dull but beats my current job.

I used to always be DE when playing football video games but later changed to MLB.
No doubt, Cole is a beast. You think even better then Tuck though?
And when it comes to really observing where people may not notice....I think Barry Cofield is a very unheralded DT.

I'll agree with that, Cole does put up impressive numbers with pretty much no help.
We've been lucky to always have 2 good pass rushers, and usually more that we can sub in and out.


OH! How was Tamba Hali snubbed!?



Edited by JJLehto - January 16 2011 at 23:47

Well, hopefully HoF voters will be more realistic.

Being a loser, I actually kinda care about pro bowl voting, but it is utterly useless.
The HoF is a different story, and hopefully do a better job selecting. I'm sure some poor choices are in there, but not nearly as much as the pro bowl which is a big joke.