Classic Rock Presents Prog & others

Kati wrote: Svetonio wrote: Guldbamsen wrote: I think it was the combo of criticizing Olav for something that has no effect whatsoever and the snide comment made at PA that did the trick. Btw I read my previous post back and it sadly looks like I don't care for new and up coming acts, which is all wrong. The folks who know me can surely testify to that. Hell I even started a thread last year called '2014' picks to highlight great new music.  Personally though, I tend to find most of the new and exciting stuff outside of the "regular" prog circles. Many of these acts are still featured on PA, but often located in the psych, avant, electronic or fusion quarters, where you often get music that no doubt deserves to be here but doesn't necessarily sound like Prog.  Still, when I then try to spread the word over the forum, there's almost never any replies. I get it though, I do listen to some weird sh*t from time to time.........but it's more than that. People with far more "normal" tastes in music often run into the same problems. There's just soooooooooo much new stuff out there that it overwhelms you, and you can't listen to it all. I tried a few years back but got tired of doing nothing but listening to other people's suggestions. Maybe tired is the wrong word though, but I definitely missed my own albums and doing the 'research' for myself. Yes, I am criticized Windhawk but also all of those who make their suggestions of the new bands directly in CZ because on that way these suggested new and young bands are promptly losing, let's say, 80% of ther little chances of being promoted at PA. Perhaps on that way the new bands are archived as prog acts in reputable progarchives.com more easily, I mean when they are suggested by PA's big shots directly in CZ, but I remind you, any archive in the World is a "dusty" thing. When a new band is in archives, there is really a big chance to be forgotten, and yet that new band get no thread in PA' public forum 'cause they were suggested in the Collab Zone. So, in my humble opinion, all of the suggestions would be delivered in "Suggestion New Bands and Solo Artist" sub-forum because it's very regarded sub-forum and it's good for the new bands promotion. As for the reviews (as this is not only an archives site but also a reviews site), everyone is free to write a review on this website, and it is a great thing. However, in favor of trying to make that promotion of young bands bigger, each one's first review at PA, in my opinion, ought to be about a new band's debut album ( reviewer can chose any of them) that is with zero reviews, and then to write 500th review of Close to the Edge. On that way, the new bands will get more reviews, and also at the site will be less albums without any review. Of course, this can not change the things regarding the site's promotion of new prog bands "absolutely" better, but it certainly can help imho. Sventonio this is not necessary fair what you are saying, if you look for instance at the Top 2014 bands on P.A. rating chart many if not most are unknown. Hug

Of course I looked at the Collaborators' Top albums of 2014 list > http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=101166

Edited by Svetonio - April 24 2015 at 07:09

Dean  supercilious twonk [/QUOTE wrote:   Good name for a prog band

Sounds like yet another a Genesis clone to me.

Angelo wrote: Guldbamsen wrote: He's just sore about the fact that almost no one supports his claim of the "new prog revolution". I missed that claim completely...  Seriously though - it might be a good thing that there's not a lot of PA traffic about new bands. Maybe, just maybe, they are not dusty enough to sit in an archive and found other channels to promote themselves (Facebook, Ello, Bandcamp, Soundcloud...). Copying e.g. bandcamp links to the forums is useful as part of discussing music, but I expect that most of these bands audience will go to bandcamp directly. The world doesn't end at the gates of PA.

Svetonio wrote:  what was heavy spamed by the "guy" who posted some random photos at first page of the blog,

I've read through the last two or three pages of posts, and a couple of observations stood out for me:

1) As David pointed out, these days there are very probably more bands/artists than fans, which means that those bands/artists have to work very hard at attracting their potential audience's attention.

2) Unfortunately, as Dean wrote in his most recent post, far too many of those bands/artists have very little clue of how to spread the word. Anyone who has worked in a genre team here at PA, or written reviews on a regular basis, has spent a fair share of his/her time looking for information about a band/artist, and found there was very little available. Bandcamp is great, but it would be nice if the artists remembered to post at least ONE link to their website/Facebook page/blog/etc, instead of having the listener/reviewer hunt around the Internet for scraps of info. Sometimes it feels like a band/artist does not want to be found. I am all for promoting new music, but those whose music I am trying to promote should collaborate as well.

Finally, I cannot but endorse Angelo's remarks about the negativity of some recent threads. There isn't anything productive in mulling over and over how nasty the music industry is nowadays, or why the younger generations don't embrace prog. What about celebrating what we like for a change, instead of emphasizing every single negative aspect?

Raff wrote: I've read through the last two or three pages of posts, and a couple of observations stood out for me: 1) As David pointed out, these days there are very probably more bands/artists than fans, which means that those bands/artists have to work very hard at attracting their potential audience's attention. 2) Unfortunately, as Dean wrote in his most recent post, far too many of those bands/artists have very little clue of how to spread the word. Anyone who has worked in a genre team here at PA, or written reviews on a regular basis, has spent a fair share of his/her time looking for information about a band/artist, and found there was very little available. Bandcamp is great, but it would be nice if the artists remembered to post at least ONE link to their website/Facebook page/blog/etc, instead of having the listener/reviewer hunt around the Internet for scraps of info. Sometimes it feels like a band/artist does not want to be found. I am all for promoting new music, but those whose music I am trying to promote should collaborate as well. Finally, I cannot but endorse Angelo's remarks about the negativity of some recent threads. There isn't anything productive in mulling over and over how nasty the music industry is nowadays, or why the younger generations don't embrace prog. What about celebrating what we like for a change, instead of emphasizing every single negative aspect?

Thank you ladies (including Dean ;-) ), glad to see I'm not calling nonsense for a change. Now I may start thinking about opening a positive topic this weekend :)

Edited by Angelo - April 24 2015 at 05:30

I got to break free from this pompous B.S.  Queen - I Want To Break Free (High Quality) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM8Ss28zjcE&list=PLMyHPEAFkfwNCMWxAGZao-G4-sIKxA9T3&index=60 XXXXX

Dean, you know I would never ever say you are pompous! Why would you think that of me? I was merely trying to deviate the topic.