Progarchives.com has always (since 2002) relied on banners ads to cover web hosting fees and all. Please consider supporting us by giving monthly PayPal donations and help keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.
Rick Wright for sure. He wrote some of Floyd's best tracks (Great Gig & Us and Them) and played the lead in their masterpiece. I especially like early contributions to the band as well.
Joined: December 01 2010
Location: London, England
Status: Offline
Points: 195
Posted: March 30 2011 at 09:46
jcleary wrote:
JeanFrame wrote:
And for Heaven's sake! Billy Ritchie, the first Lead keyboard player of them all! Without whom etc etc.....
What's your connection to Clouds? Obviously a family member or friend. Well Clouds have no one to blame for their lack of success except themselves. They had every opportunity to create two great cutting edge progressive rock albums, but instead they made two VERY MEDIOCRE albums. Both you and Alex, the guy that does their Website, have claimed that the albums were ahead of their time. Well i was there and bought Scrapbook when it came out and i can tell you that it was WAY BEHIND all of the great albums that were coming out of the UK before and at the same time. Just to refresh your memory check out all of these albums that came out that were alot better than Scrapbook and WaterColour Days.
Your list is bonkers, your rationale rabid. Are you going to
say that I’m also related to Radiohead, Yes, ELP, Pink Floyd, King Crimson etc because
of my positive comments about them too? And are our own senior members who gave
good reviews to the band also relatives? Do you view this as a world
conspiracy? I have never met any of Clouds personally, though I saw both 1-2-3
and Clouds in the late 60s. In fact, I heard nothing more of them till the 1996
CD and then Prog Archives. In my opinion,1-2-3 was more important than Clouds, and I stated on record that I
didn’t think the band had done enough to make it all the way. I suggest you
read some of the more measured comments by members more tolerant than yourself.
It’s fine not to like something, we are all entitled to personal taste, but to
cast stones based on pure irrational hatred is almost a crime and should
certainly be banished from this site with its finer aspirations to truth,
something you seem to know little about.
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin
Joined: February 21 2004
Location: Scotland
Status: Offline
Points: 15585
Posted: March 30 2011 at 14:58
Quite so. The tone of your post is unnecessarily aggressive jcleary. By all means voice your opinion, but please do not question the motives or integrity of another member, or attempt to belittle their views. An apology is in order.
To those who have responded directly to that post, please hit the report button and leave it to the admins to deal with. By responding in the thread you simply encourage the trolling while limiting our options.
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin
Joined: July 16 2004
Location: UK
Status: Offline
Points: 11985
Posted: March 30 2011 at 17:09
JeanFrame wrote:
jcleary wrote:
JeanFrame wrote:
And for Heaven's sake! Billy Ritchie, the first Lead keyboard player of them all! Without whom etc etc.....
What's your connection to Clouds? Obviously a family member or friend. Well Clouds have no one to blame for their lack of success except themselves. They had every opportunity to create two great cutting edge progressive rock albums, but instead they made two VERY MEDIOCRE albums. Both you and Alex, the guy that does their Website, have claimed that the albums were ahead of their time. Well i was there and bought Scrapbook when it came out and i can tell you that it was WAY BEHIND all of the great albums that were coming out of the UK before and at the same time. Just to refresh your memory check out all of these albums that came out that were alot better than Scrapbook and WaterColour Days.
<p ="Msonormal">Your list is bonkers, your rationale rabid. Are you going to
say that I’m also related to Radiohead, Yes, ELP, Pink Floyd, King Crimson etc because
of my positive comments about them too? And are our own senior members who gave
good reviews to the band also relatives? Do you view this as a world
conspiracy? I have never met any of Clouds personally, though I saw both 1-2-3
and Clouds in the late 60s. In fact, I heard nothing more of them till the 1996
CD and then Prog Archives. In my opinion,<span style="">
</span>1-2-3 was more important than Clouds, and I stated on record that I
didn’t think the band had done enough to make it all the way. I suggest you
read some of the more measured comments by members more tolerant than yourself.
It’s fine not to like something, we are all entitled to personal taste, but to
cast stones based on pure irrational hatred is almost a crime and should
certainly be banished from this site with its finer aspirations to truth,
something you seem to know little about.
Whatever is going on, and something is definitely going on, keep it off our forum please.
Joined: August 15 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 1305
Posted: April 06 2011 at 10:41
Hugh Banton.
Why isn't this guy in every best keyboardist list?
When Van Der Graaf lost their bassist, rather than get a new one, Hugh Banton volunteered to play the bass lines with his feet.
When Jackson left, who stepped up to the plate to cover his parts? Hugh Banton.
I can't think of any other musician who plays so many musicians parts on his own and simultaneously. Except for maybe Tomas Bodin, another wildly underappreciated keyboard player.
Joined: April 13 2010
Location: Dorset, England
Status: Offline
Points: 1433
Posted: April 06 2011 at 11:12
When 10 people in one thread mention how good Rick Wright is... how is he underrated?
He's probably one of about 5 keyboard players that are actually well-known outside of prog. His death made national news. Pink Floyd are one of the most famous bands in history and any real fan is likely to appreciate all of the members and not just focus on Gilmour (after all, he's not a show-off anyway).
This isn't me saying I don't like him..... we ALL seem to like him and therefore, he is not underrated!
Joined: July 26 2011
Location: Everywhere
Status: Offline
Points: 178
Posted: August 16 2011 at 12:54
Vibrationbaby wrote:
If someone's or something is underated. By whom or what are they uderated by? It's so ambiguious. The word annoys me just about as much as teenage girls who use the word " like " as puncuation. As far as keyboardists go not everyone in progressive rock wanted to be a Keith Emerson or Rick Wakeman.
I believe 'under appreciated' is what was used.
“When Fortuna spins you downward, go out to a movie and get more out of life.” John Kennedy Toole
I'm starting to reappraise Tony Kaye and his work on the early Yes albums. Much underappreciated, both in light of the luminaries who followed and in the slating he got for his 80s work (check out Christopher Currie's reviews of the 80s Yes albums for some pretty vicious commentary re: Kaye's presence in the band).
Also think John Tout of Renaissance is one of the greats, along with Dave Stewart (who's getting lots of ink in this here thread). Renaissance was at its best when Tout was doing the heavy lifting, rather than an orchestra.
Joined: April 17 2010
Location: Fine Furniture
Status: Offline
Points: 525
Posted: August 20 2011 at 11:16
No one ever mentions John Evans in these discussions. He pretty much carries an entire album on the back of a Hammond organ. And not just any album (clears throat).
I'm not saying he's the U word. But Ian didn't compose those epic keyboard moments...
Joined: April 26 2011
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 336
Posted: August 22 2011 at 21:45
Michal Lapaj creates some wonderful atmospheres that are essential to the brilliance of Riverside. Not always in the forefront but still very important.
Joined: December 25 2008
Status: Offline
Points: 374
Posted: August 23 2011 at 07:32
I praise these guys: Greg Rolie (Santana, Journey) - great Hammond player and singer John Novello (Niacin) Dan Maske (Far Corner) - author of "Progressive Rock keyboard" book
Joined: December 27 2009
Location: Slovenia
Status: Offline
Points: 181
Posted: August 25 2011 at 00:42
Patrick Moraz is for me better that Wakeman in any sense and by a mile. Technically and musically he outmachess him easily and his use of synths isn't nearly as cheesy as Wakemans.
Joined: October 20 2005
Location: Hungary
Status: Offline
Points: 2506
Posted: August 25 2011 at 13:08
Kerry Minnear and Michal Łapaj are good suggestions. I would like to mention the Nocenzi brothers. The forum is not full of Banco del Mutuo topics, but they are truly excellent, especially Vittorio, so they are under appreciated. Actually almost everyone is under appreciated, who is not Rick Wakeman, Keith Emerson, Tony Banks and Jordan Rudess... But László Benkő of Omega? Omega needs an additional keyboard(and guitar...) player on stage to put together a correct live sound...
Joined: December 25 2008
Status: Offline
Points: 374
Posted: August 30 2011 at 04:39
i wouldnt sai better - they just have different influences Wakeman is mostly classical player; Moraz is more influenced by jazz. that's why Relayer is so weird (in good sence), and different from other Yes albums
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum
This page was generated in 0.105 seconds.
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.