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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 29 2011 at 21:09
Rick Wright for sure. He wrote some of Floyd's best tracks (Great Gig & Us and Them) and played the lead in their masterpiece. I especially like early contributions to the band as well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2011 at 09:46
Originally posted by jcleary jcleary wrote:

Originally posted by JeanFrame JeanFrame wrote:

And for Heaven's sake! Billy Ritchie, the first Lead keyboard player of them all! Without whom etc etc.....
What's your connection to Clouds? Obviously a family member or friend. Well Clouds have no one to blame for their lack of success except themselves. They had every opportunity to create two great cutting edge progressive rock albums, but instead they made two VERY MEDIOCRE albums. Both you and Alex, the guy that does their Website, have claimed that the albums were ahead of their time. Well i was there and bought Scrapbook when it came out and i can tell you that it was WAY BEHIND all of the great albums that were coming out of the UK before and at the same time. Just to refresh your memory check out all of these albums that came out that were alot better than Scrapbook and WaterColour Days.





Your list is bonkers, your rationale rabid. Are you going to say that I’m also related to Radiohead, Yes, ELP, Pink Floyd, King Crimson etc because of my positive comments about them too? And are our own senior members who gave good reviews to the band also relatives? Do you view this as a world conspiracy? I have never met any of Clouds personally, though I saw both 1-2-3 and Clouds in the late 60s. In fact, I heard nothing more of them till the 1996 CD and then Prog Archives. In my opinion,  1-2-3 was more important than Clouds, and I stated on record that I didn’t think the band had done enough to make it all the way. I suggest you read some of the more measured comments by members more tolerant than yourself. It’s fine not to like something, we are all entitled to personal taste, but to cast stones based on pure irrational hatred is almost a crime and should certainly be banished from this site with its finer aspirations to truth, something you seem to know little about.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2011 at 14:58
Quite so. The tone of your post is unnecessarily aggressive jcleary. By all means voice your opinion, but please do not question the motives or integrity of another member, or attempt to belittle their views. An apology is in order.
 
To those who have responded directly to that post, please hit the report button and leave it to the admins to deal with. By responding in the thread you simply encourage the trolling while limiting our options.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2011 at 17:09
Originally posted by JeanFrame JeanFrame wrote:


Originally posted by jcleary jcleary wrote:


Originally posted by JeanFrame JeanFrame wrote:

And for Heaven's sake! Billy Ritchie, the first Lead keyboard player of them all! Without whom etc etc.....
What's your connection to Clouds? Obviously a family member or friend. Well Clouds have no one to blame for their lack of success except themselves. They had every opportunity to create two great cutting edge progressive rock albums, but instead they made two VERY MEDIOCRE albums. Both you and Alex, the guy that does their Website, have claimed that the albums were ahead of their time. Well i was there and bought Scrapbook when it came out and i can tell you that it was WAY BEHIND all of the great albums that were coming out of the UK before and at the same time. Just to refresh your memory check out all of these albums that came out that were alot better than Scrapbook and WaterColour Days.
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<p ="Msonormal">Your list is bonkers, your rationale rabid. Are you going to
say that I’m also related to Radiohead, Yes, ELP, Pink Floyd, King Crimson etc because
of my positive comments about them too? And are our own senior members who gave
good reviews to the band also relatives? Do you view this as a world
conspiracy? I have never met any of Clouds personally, though I saw both 1-2-3
and Clouds in the late 60s. In fact, I heard nothing more of them till the 1996
CD and then Prog Archives. In my opinion,<span style=""> 
</span>1-2-3 was more important than Clouds, and I stated on record that I
didn’t think the band had done enough to make it all the way. I suggest you
read some of the more measured comments by members more tolerant than yourself.
It’s fine not to like something, we are all entitled to personal taste, but to
cast stones based on pure irrational hatred is almost a crime and should
certainly be banished from this site with its finer aspirations to truth,
something you seem to know little about.





Whatever is going on, and something is definitely going on, keep it off our forum please.

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Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:






Whatever is going on, and something is definitely going on, keep it off our forum please.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2011 at 10:41
Hugh Banton.

Why isn't this guy in every best keyboardist list?

When Van Der Graaf lost their bassist, rather than get a new one, Hugh Banton volunteered to play the bass lines with his feet.

When Jackson left, who stepped up to the plate to cover his parts? Hugh Banton.

I can't think of any other musician who plays so many musicians parts on his own and simultaneously. Except for maybe Tomas Bodin, another wildly underappreciated keyboard player.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2011 at 11:12

When 10 people in one thread mention how good Rick Wright is... how is he underrated?

He's probably one of about 5 keyboard players that are actually well-known outside of prog. His death made national news. Pink Floyd are one of the most famous bands in history and any real fan is likely to appreciate all of the members and not just focus on Gilmour (after all, he's not a show-off anyway).

This isn't me saying I don't like him..... we ALL seem to like him and therefore, he is not underrated!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2011 at 12:54
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

If someone's or something is underated. By whom or what are they uderated by? It's so ambiguious. The word annoys me just about as much as teenage girls who use the word " like " as puncuation. As far as keyboardists go not everyone in progressive rock wanted to be a Keith Emerson or Rick Wakeman.
I believe 'under appreciated' is what was used. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2011 at 14:13
I think that Sverd from Arcturus is rather underrated.



Also maybe Richard Barbieri from Porcupine Tree. I'm constantly in awe of his deep soundscapes, and yet most barely acknowledge him. 

And of course Richard Wright, who was a genius. Tony Banks is also possibly under appreciated, but I'm not sure. I LOVE his playing. 

OH, one more. Jenny Conlee from the Decemberists is a GREAT organist. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2011 at 11:05
I'm starting to reappraise Tony Kaye and his work on the early Yes albums.  Much underappreciated, both in light of the luminaries who followed and in the slating he got for his 80s work (check out Christopher Currie's reviews of the 80s Yes albums for some pretty vicious commentary re: Kaye's presence in the band).

Also think John Tout of Renaissance is one of the greats, along with Dave Stewart (who's getting lots of ink in this here thread).  Renaissance was at its best when Tout was doing the heavy lifting, rather than an orchestra.

Also, *looks around quickly* Dennis de Young.

Oh, and as richardh mentioned:  Rod Argent.

Roger Powell from Utopia.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2011 at 11:16
No one ever mentions John Evans in these discussions. He pretty much carries an entire album on the back of a Hammond organ. And not just any album (clears throat).
I'm not saying he's the U word. But Ian didn't compose those epic keyboard moments...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2011 at 11:20
Sure Evans is a great keys player..How to forget him? Embarrassed

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2011 at 11:47
Page McConnell.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2011 at 16:52
Prog?...Well, this band is on progarchives so I'll still mention him: Merzenya.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2011 at 21:45
Michal Lapaj creates some wonderful atmospheres that are essential to the brilliance of Riverside.  Not always in the forefront but still very important.
Just give it all an hour by the concrete lake.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2011 at 07:32
I praise these guys:
Greg Rolie (Santana, Journey)  - great Hammond player and singer
John Novello (Niacin) 
Dan Maske (Far Corner) - author of "Progressive Rock keyboard" book



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2011 at 21:27
Vincenzo Coccimiglio (Triade)-his playing is so nice!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2011 at 00:42
Patrick Moraz is for me better that Wakeman in any sense and by a mile. Technically and musically he outmachess him easily and his use of synths isn't nearly as cheesy as Wakemans.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2011 at 13:08
 Kerry Minnear  and Michal Łapaj are good suggestions.
I would like to mention the Nocenzi brothers. The forum is not full of Banco del Mutuo topics, but they are truly excellent, especially Vittorio,  so they are under appreciated.
Actually almost everyone is under appreciated, who is not Rick Wakeman, Keith Emerson, Tony Banks and Jordan Rudess...
But László  Benkő of Omega? Confused
Omega needs an additional keyboard(and guitar...) player on stage to put together a correct live sound...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2011 at 04:39
i wouldnt sai better - they just have different influences
Wakeman is mostly classical player;  Moraz is more influenced by jazz. that's why Relayer is so weird (in good sence), and different from other Yes albums

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