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Poll Question: Which of those worst albums is the worst ?
Poll Choice Votes Poll Statistics
6 [6.25%]
7 [7.29%]
28 [29.17%]
4 [4.17%]
4 [4.17%]
3 [3.13%]
1 [1.04%]
7 [7.29%]
1 [1.04%]
28 [29.17%]
7 [7.29%]
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worst in this case = less rated. "Uncivil" is a word too big, I think
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It is only 7 letters, although I suppose it was the biggest word in your post. LOLWink
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Alright gents. Play nice.  After all threads with the title worst in them are uncivil enough on their own. 
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

It is only 7 letters, although I suppose it was the biggest word in your post. LOLWink
That's because English is a synthetic language. The same word in my home language is 8 letters long Smile
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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

It is only 7 letters, although I suppose it was the biggest word in your post. LOLWink
That's because English is a synthetic language. The same word in my home language is 8 letters long Smile



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Points: 2060 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2010 at 11:26
The Final Cut ! Big smile

I do not consider Big Generator to be so worse (ok, it's not a peak), nor ThrakkaKAKTZKFKZEELRGK (you see ?).


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Points: 363 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2010 at 18:10
Of course there´s should be some reason The Final Cut is in list; it's a complete losing time album.
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With no doubt, The Final Cut!
I think it's an awful album. Italian reviews billed it as real garbage.
I said "awful"? Even worse, I think. Rubbish.

But I fully disagree with the Jethro Tull's Dot Com and with Genesis' Abacab. 
Of course they are not masterpieces but have their good moments; but - most important - they are NOT Jethro's and Genesis' worst things ever.
Surely Tull's Under Wraps is a collection of useless and ugliest songs (but 3 and a half) ever, while Invisible Touch is, without any doubt, Genesis' worst album ever. But, strange indeed, their most successful album...
I agree with Camel (CAMEL?!? Andy LAtimer, you mean!)'s Single Factor... really poor.
Camera Camera by Renaissance is not so bad... there are at least three songs that are good indeed, even if poppy arranged, But the structure is good. Subsequent Time line is really worst!
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Originally posted by pied piper pied piper wrote:

With no doubt, The Final Cut!
I think it's an awful album. Italian reviews billed it as real garbage.
I said "awful"? Even worse, I think. Rubbish.

But I fully disagree with the Jethro Tull's Dot Com and with Genesis' Abacab. 
Of course they are not masterpieces but have their good moments; but - most important - they are NOT Jethro's and Genesis' worst things ever.
Surely Tull's Under Wraps is a collection of useless and ugliest songs (but 3 and a half) ever, while Invisible Touch is, without any doubt, Genesis' worst album ever. But, strange indeed, their most successful album...
I agree with Camel (CAMEL?!? Andy LAtimer, you mean!)'s Single Factor... really poor.
Camera Camera by Renaissance is not so bad... there are at least three songs that are good indeed, even if poppy arranged, But the structure is good. Subsequent Time line is really worst!
The Final Cut is so controversial that I've started a separate poll about it. About Renaissance, I didn't survive to Camera Camera so I've been so lucky to have saved my money with Time Line. As I stated at the beginning, the list is based on albums that I own. Of course there cen be something worse, but I can't purchase all the garbage released in the last 30 years Big smile.
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Originally posted by pied piper pied piper wrote:

Italian reviews billed it as real garbage.


Italian reviews ?Journalists used to call "Rock" everything has an electric guitar sound e.g. Marco Masini?. However I don't remember anybody calling TFC "garbage" in 1983. 
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OK, Marco Masini is REAL rubbish, there's no doubt about it.  Dead

But... yes, italian reviewers called Final Cut "garbage". Anyway, in that age all the "old prog rockers" were considered "dinosaurs" and really all the survivors were billed as "extincted and to delete the sooner", and the "only music worth listening was stuff like Soft Cell's or Depeche Mode's".

I remember when Yes reformed... OMG, they were fooled and treated like the worst killer! but the huge success of Owner of a lonely heart shutted up reviewers' mouth.

Back to Floyd and considering the (particularly awful in musical tastes) period, it was said that "if you're given Final Cut as change in supermarkets, you have to protest!".
Do you think that this is a good review?
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Masini was just to mention one rubbish and probably not the worst at all... I agree about the period, and given it TFC was probably one of the best things released in that period. 

I prefer things like Misplaced Childhood and 90125, but finding another good album from 83-84 is really hard.
Specifically to TFC, I'm used to give importance to the lyrics when they are present. Surely they matter in any concept album.

However, please move the discussion about TFC to http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=72890

even if I guess I know how you will vote Wink 
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Personally I don't think Abacab is a bad album. Maybe not to everybody's taste, but there are no bad songs on the album. It's not one of my favourite albums, but that's something else.
 
Big Generator has some good songs, and some weaker songs, but I wouldn't call it a bad album.
 
Single Factor: a bit too poppy to my taste, except for a few great songs like "Heart's Desire" / "End Peace", but once again, not a bad album.
 
Haven't heard the other albums.
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The meaning is "worst by band", not "bad at all". I love The Final Cut but it's considered the worst PF album so it's in the list. 
Personally I consider The Single Factor a poor album, but I still listen to it sometimes.
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i wouldnt crap on Final Cut!
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neither me, but somebody does...
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Points: 14258 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2010 at 06:55
^^^ true, theres always someone who loves an album even Love Beach. You cant helpo that altho the majority would not like this or Final Cut as they are bad choices from good bands sold into churning out an album to appease a label or their own inflated egos such as Waters.
 
 
St Anger should be on that list too
 
Dot Com should not be there nor should Big Generator
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St Anger is not here because I don't consider Metallica so important to be in this list of bands, otherwise GTR could have been a good candidate. I can think to a lot of things worse than the albums in the list. Also Love Beach is better than GTR imo.
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Originally posted by Moogtron III Moogtron III wrote:

Personally I don't think Abacab is a bad album. Maybe not to everybody's taste, but there are no bad songs on the album. 
"There are no bad songs"?!?  Dead
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Maybe you don't know that Who Dunnit has been billed by 100% of critics and Genesis' fans as the worst Genesis' song ever... and in fact it is.

On the other way, luckily Dodo is an excellent composition, as much as Me & Sarah Jane, two very beautiful songs.



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