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Well Alonso's race blown already. Woooow. No idea why he stayed out, was it team request or he just did it...either way what a f**k up. The wing was only dragging on the ground with a wet track, why come in to pits?
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Posted: March 24 2013 at 04:22
^Yeah, I didn't understand that, either. And never have I seen so much action or mistakes made on pit road. I'm a tad pissed that Button was one of the ones screwed over by it, especially after that strong run he had going. McLaren probably won't get too many of those opportunities to score big points to be screwing it up in the pits.
Last year, I believe it was (I lose track) McLaren was plagued with pit issues.
Wow, intriguing race. The actual race itself was kinda meh but lots of whackiness. Still no idea wtf Alonso was thinking, but if this ends up being another 2 point title loss...really gunna kick himself. Pure stupidity.
Edit: NOT congrats to Vettel. Real punk move. Also interesting with Mercedes. Seems like Rosberg was quicker but had to play "good driver" for the team. Sounds like he had a few grumbles as well. I gotta say, I am liking this whole not so friendly team mate thing!
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Posted: March 24 2013 at 04:54
Webbers getting tired of playing second fiddle to Vettel and I can't blame him, either. It's got to be pretty frustrating. NBC Sports just showed them arguing a little before they came out to the podium.
And holy crap, how awkward the post podium interviews were! You could seriously cut the tension with a knife!
Was gunna say Vettel honestly passed him, and Mark should be happy to have held on so long but right out of Horner's mouth: They were given the shut down cue, and Vettel did not. Hmmmm gotta say bit of a shameful display Sebastian. He's damn determined but yikes, if I was Mark next time I'm battling him I'd shove his ass off the track!
Kudos to Hamilton. Takes some balls to admit fully he should be 4th.
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Posted: March 24 2013 at 05:55
Red Bull should punish Vettel but they will not, no wonder Mark is pissed off, if it had been the other way around...
And it was pretty arrogant from Seb when he told to the team 'Mark's too slow, get him out of the way', the tone he used was nasty. This boy is gonna end up like Schumi...
Christian Horner is gonna have some though days ahead trying to bring back peace.
I wonder if they may put a penalty to Ferrari for compromising the race safety by not pitting Alonso.
Exciting race but one which nobody finished really happy with.
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Posted: March 24 2013 at 06:36
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'I want to say sorry to Mark. I took a lot of risk in passing him I shouldn't have done it.'
Vettel apologises to Webber - Points on the board though. Should make it interesting for the next few races. I can't see Webber accepting those words.
It's easy to apologise after the fact and I'm quite sure he did not really mean those words. And the point was not so much the risk of the overtaking manouver itself but disobeying the team's instructions.
'I want to say sorry to Mark. I took a lot of risk in passing him I shouldn't have done it.'
Vettel apologises to Webber - Points on the board though. Should make it interesting for the next few races. I can't see Webber accepting those words.
hmmmm I wouldn't. Really, can't buy that one. "a lot of risk" kind of implies it was dangerous, sounds like a dance around. Won't say the words "I was told to maintain position and didn't" You are right, Horner will have a helluva time keeping this team together, and it will be a sight to see!
Less exciting, will Brawn keep any rising tension at Mercedes under lid? I expect he will talk to them and diffuse the situation. Still if they race each other again several times...could be interesting!
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Posted: March 24 2013 at 11:54
What a race. I think Button did the best job out there, that ,McLaren had no business being ahead of a Ferrari and both Lotuses today and Jenson reconed he could have ended up giving Mercedes a hard time for the podium. I hope this is a sign they're turning things around.
The BBC reported that the Ferrari guys were out in the pitlane for Alonso, be he decided to carry on, no doubt hoping he could hold on for 4 laps so that he could pit for slicks at the same time since Sepang does dry very quickly.
I think Hamilton will be annoyed, if he'd been properly fueled he would have been right in the thick of the fight with the Red Bull's. I predict serious fireworks from Red Bull in the coming races, Webber will not likely give Seb any space from now on.
Yeah, they did say later on the crew was there ready and waiting for Alonso, and it was his choice. Eh, just don't see the reward for risk but at least it's week 2 only. Still this could come back to haunt him.
That is interesting, I didn't hear about the fuel issue until now. This means that Nico suffered, at the hands of the teams fuel issue with Lewis. No wonder he was so peeved!
Mhm, this season is going to be very interesting with RBR. Oh man imagine if the 2 of had to battle for the title. Some straight up Senna/Prost hatred would go down!
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Posted: March 24 2013 at 13:24
I could imagine a finale between them two going like Turkey 2010.
Apparently Dominicali has said it's Ferrari's fault they asked Alonso to stay out. I can see why, if he'd made it to lap 5 without loosing too many places then he would have been in a very good position to fight back where as if he'd pitted at the end of the first lap he would have been last and the Lotuses showed how difficult it was to fight through the field despite having a very fast car.
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Posted: March 24 2013 at 15:55
I have read both Alonso and Domenicali saying that 'they took the decision together', probably an act of diplomacy which I think is the correct thing to do as a team.
I understand the motivation but I still think that it was irresponsible from the safety point of view, it's common practice that if you damage the front wing in the first lap you have to pit to replace it, sorry, of course this puts you at the back of the field but this is what everybody does, and it was clear from the images that the wing was seriously damaged, it was not a scratch or a small flap gone missing, it was scratching through the ground all the way. It could have caused a major accident not only for Alonso himself but to other riders as well.
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Posted: March 24 2013 at 15:58
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Mhm, this season is going to be very interesting with RBR. Oh man imagine if the 2 of had to battle for the title. Some straight up Senna/Prost hatred would go down!
I can't wait for someone to write a book about it, kind of like Prost and Senna. Would be an interesting read!
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Posted: March 24 2013 at 17:00
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I have read both Alonso and Domenicali saying that 'they took the decision together', probably an act of diplomacy which I think is the correct thing to do as a team.
I understand the motivation but I still think that it was irresponsible from the safety point of view, it's common practice that if you damage the front wing in the first lap you have to pit to replace it, sorry, of course this puts you at the back of the field but this is what everybody does, and it was clear from the images that the wing was seriously damaged, it was not a scratch or a small flap gone missing, it was scratching through the ground all the way. It could have caused a major accident not only for Alonso himself but to other riders as well.
Honestly I don't think it's safety thats the main concern when the front wings are damaged for any race team, but that you cant go as quickly and it will cost you more time leaving it than fixing it. However, the start of the race was in wet conditions and I've seen before a driver complete a race despite missing half a front wing because the much lower speeds reduce the dependency on downforce. It wont help, but if you've only got about 4/5 laps till a scheduled (or predicted) pitstop then it could be worth more to stay out.
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Posted: March 24 2013 at 17:05
Nice one for Hinch, feels like he's been around for ever, I remember him commentating on Champ Car years ago whilst competing in Formula Atlantic. Very happy to hear tha de Silvestro was a constant in the top 5 and only lost the podium due to fading tyres. Wish I could have seen the race.
Caught the very end of NASCAR that my dad had on. Pretty wicked finish. Great battle for the lead and jr climbed from 24th to 4th in like 13 laps. The leaders took each other out and he scooted into 2nd. Epic day.
Wow, I started watching motorsports, full time, in 2003. Ten years! I should really get back to following everything regularly: F1, Indy, Sports Cars even nascar if I feel like (no guarantees lol)
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