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Posted: March 24 2013 at 18:32

JJLehto wrote:

Wow, I started watching motorsports, full time, in 2003. Ten years!

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Wow, just realized I started watching nascar full time, thus soon F1, Indy, rally, ALMS and etc in 2003.
10 years sure has gone fast.

Wow, tell me more!

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Posted: March 24 2013 at 19:08

That NASCAR finish was insane! Kyle was essentially out of it for the win and on the last lap, Hamlin and Logano get into each other a few times and on goes KyBu for the win! Awesome day!

Here it is. I think it's in French, and honestly, adds to the excitement.

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Posted: March 24 2013 at 22:28

^ Indeed. It was a great racing day all around. (Even though I didn't necessarily like everything that happened)

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Posted: March 25 2013 at 08:36

I kinda like this whole randomly turning on a NASCAR race, catching the final 10-20 laps and it being an epic finish.

Have a surprisingly good record of it!

I forgot how exciting it can be, I really got turned off by just how corporate it became and more cookie cutter crap tracks, but I may casually watch it more this year. At least the good races.

Hm....maybe reading too much into this but Webber's comments here intrigue me. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/21917254

"we had a plan before the race"

"Its hard to understand the situation. People think they know what went on but they dont"

Is this implying team orders...as in it was planned Webber would have the win? I sure hope not.

At least RBR is saying all the right things and I thought at first there was a secret "order" between Vettel and the team but nah, I think he just ignored it and went for it. Article says Webber has broken team orders before himself so yeah. Just what a crazy mess!

Edited by JJLehto - March 25 2013 at 09:29

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Posted: March 25 2013 at 10:45

I think the "plan" would be the one that many teams use, i.e the drivers are free to race to the final stops and then the team calls it to bring the cars home safely. I know Webber continued to attack Vettel at Silverstone in 11 and was rather more defensive than he needed to be with Vettel in Brazil last year but this is on a whole different level.

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Posted: March 25 2013 at 15:41

That is what I figured, but never know...thought maybe he was implying deeper team orders. But that'd be foolish on his part.

Yeah, and supposedly Weeber outright said "No" in regards to supporting Vettel's '12 title run.

While he did get screwed big time at Malaysia gotta admit, sounds like Webber wants to "stick to the plan" in a case like this, but disregard team order and go for the win when it was at Vettel's expense. No issue with either way, just seems a tad bit hypocritical. But ah well, as Horner said they are racers...might as well take any reigns off and just let em duke it out, with the only rule being don't crash each other

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Posted: March 25 2013 at 18:05

Just read that Hamlin has got a fractured back from his Fontana crash, not good.

Also just heard that the American GT team Prototype Technologies Group (PTG) have closed their doors and sold off their kit. I can't believe we'll never see the iconic Yokohama black and red BMW M3's anymore!

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Posted: March 25 2013 at 18:12

^ Oy. It was quite a hit. It always seems like the car finds that one place on the track that doesn't have the SAFER barrier or has some structural incongruity to it.

Hopefully he won't be out for long. At least he has a week off to figure out what to do.

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Posted: April 02 2013 at 19:46

You'd think by now the whole track would just be lined with it (unless this isn't possible for some reason??)

The infamous F1 gap is back and it's killing me!

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Posted: April 02 2013 at 22:05

Perhaps on gates it would be a problem? But I doubt that. Nor did this incident involve gates.

And oh yes!!

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Posted: April 06 2013 at 03:39

For those interested, a reminder that 2013 MotoGP season starts this weekend in Qatar.

MotoGP starts a new qualifying knock-out format with Q1 and Q2 (the top 10 riders during Free Practice go automatically to Q2, the rest participate in Q1 where the best 2 riders get also a place in Q2).

So far in Free Practice MotoGP rookie (and 2012 Moto2 champion) Marc Marquez (Repsol Honda) has been the fastest. BTW the boy can lean on the bike...

7 times champion Valentino Rossi is back with Yamaha and doing reasonably well.

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Posted: April 06 2013 at 04:34

IndyCar as well this weekend at Barber Motorsport Park. AJ Allmendinger will be making his first single seater start since for Penske sinc ehe raced in Champ Car back in 2006, should be interesting to see how he goes.

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Posted: April 06 2013 at 05:02

sleeper wrote:

IndyCar as well this weekend at Barber Motorsport Park. AJ Allmendinger will be making his first single seater start since for Penske sinc ehe raced in Champ Car back in 2006, should be interesting to see how he goes.

I love the fact that Penske is putting AJ back in one of his rides, but I do wish he could get something more permanent. Oh well, this could lead to that, so we'll have to see how he does.

And Martinsville on the NASCAR side with the trucks' second race of the year and then Cup on Sunday. Classic short track.

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Posted: April 06 2013 at 08:26

Yeah, his deal is for Barber and Indy only but there working hard on getting the backing for more races, Long Beach is certainly on the cards.

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Posted: April 06 2013 at 11:07

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Interesting rumour thats been gathering pace since late last year is that Honda are on their way back to F1, possibly next year but most likely in 2015 with McLaren. Autosport are even repoting that according to Honda sources the board signed off on the development of a V6 turbo engine months ago. I really hope this is true.

I work for Honda and although there's nothing official within the company I believe that it's very likely to be true.

Honda had no commercial interest in V8's but V6's are much more attractive for Honda's business case. The new NSX will employ hybrid technology and knowhow in Energy Recovery Systems will be very useful in the near future.

Running a full team was not doable but being just an engine supplier could be economically sustainable.

Mercedes motorsport boss Totto Wolff has even said that their contract with McLaren for 2014 will include special clauses to avoid that their engine technology could be passed by McLaren to Honda (he did not explicitly mention the Honda name but it was quite apparent from the context).

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Posted: April 06 2013 at 11:55

Gerinski wrote:

I work for Honda and although there's nothing official within the company I believe that it's very likely to be true.

Running a full team was not doable but being just an engine supplier could be economically sustainable.

Yeah, James Allen has said on his blog that though nothing's been anounced, and isn't likely to be for some time, the deal with Honda has already been signed and that this comes form very reliable sources within the company. He's also said the same is true with a replacement sponsor for Vodafone, who's contract runs out at the end of the year and are pulling out of pretty much all sports sponsorship with the McLaren dela the last one remaining. It's said that though it isn't Carlos Slim or any of his companies (like Telmex), he was highly involved with securing the deal.

Always amazes me it's still called the "new" NSX, it's raced in Japanese Super GT since 2010 as the RSV and won that years title.

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Posted: April 06 2013 at 12:55

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Always amazes me it's still called the "new" NSX, it's raced in Japanese Super GT since 2010 as the RSV and won that years title.

Nope, they have very little in common, while it is true that the project for a new NSX was at some point morphed into the HSV project (not RSV) and the HSV has served as testbed for several things which will undoubtedly be used in the new NSX, the HSV has front engine (V8) while the new NSX is a mid-engined V6 (complemented with electric motors). Completely different concept.

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Posted: April 07 2013 at 04:35

Thought I might have got the name wrong. Thanks for clearing that up, given how similar they look I'd always assumed that it was the HSV project morphed into the new NSX (which was probably the original intent but it sounds like it's HSV has been used for much more than just that).

It's anoying that it's hard to find much information on the Super GT series here, though that might change when they switch to DTM rules for GT500 class.

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Posted: April 11 2013 at 13:30

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Posted: April 12 2013 at 05:51

Practice times. Looks like the tyres are going to be difficult again this weekend.

Pos Driver                Team                  Time      Gap        Laps
 1. Felipe Massa          Ferrari               1m35.340s             32
 2. Kimi Raikkonen        Lotus-Renault         1m35.492s  + 0.152s   32
 3. Fernando Alonso       Ferrari               1m35.755s  + 0.415s   30
 4. Nico Rosberg          Mercedes              1m35.819s  + 0.479s   35
 5. Mark Webber           Red Bull-Renault      1m36.092s  + 0.752s   31
 6. Jenson Button         McLaren-Mercedes      1m36.432s  + 1.092s   29
 7. Lewis Hamilton        Mercedes              1m36.496s  + 1.156s   39
 8. Adrian Sutil          Force India-Mercedes  1m36.514s  + 1.174s   32
 9. Paul di Resta         Force India-Mercedes  1m36.595s  + 1.255s   33
10. Sebastian Vettel      Red Bull-Renault      1m36.791s  + 1.451s   27
11. Sergio Perez          McLaren-Mercedes      1m36.940s  + 1.600s   16
12. Romain Grosjean       Lotus-Renault         1m36.963s  + 1.623s   31
13. Esteban Gutierrez     Sauber-Ferrari        1m37.103s  + 1.763s   22
14. Daniel Ricciardo      Toro Rosso-Ferrari    1m37.206s  + 1.866s   39
15. Jean-Eric Vergne      Toro Rosso-Ferrari    1m38.127s  + 2.787s   34
16. Valtteri Bottas       Williams-Renault      1m38.185s  + 2.845s   18
17. Nico Hulkenberg       Sauber-Ferrari        1m38.211s  + 2.871s   32
18. Pastor Maldonado      Williams-Renault      1m38.276s  + 2.936s   34
19. Jules Bianchi         Marussia-Cosworth     1m38.725s  + 3.385s   29
20. Giedo van der Garde   Caterham-Renault      1m39.271s  + 3.931s   21
21. Charles Pic           Caterham-Renault      1m39.814s  + 4.474s   27
22. Max Chilton           Marussia-Cosworth     1m43.227s  + 7.887s    5

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