Steve Hackett - Genesis Extended - 19 Nov. 2014 |
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calm_sea
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Topic: Steve Hackett - Genesis Extended - 19 Nov. 2014 Posted: November 22 2014 at 10:55 |
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Lynn Memorial Auditorium - Lynn, Massachusetts - 19 November, 2014
I live in the great state of Maine. We don't really get much prog up this way, at least not in our actual state. I went to see Mr. Hackett's Genesis Revisited tour in September 2013, but had to travel all the way down to Long Island, New York for the show, as I'd missed out on tickets to the Connecticut gig. From what I heard, the New York venue was far superior, and it was a nice little road trip, so no harm there. The contextual purpose of mentioning this is to explain that I always have to travel some distance for a good prog concert. Last year's show was amazing. I had never seen Steve perform live ever, and I'm far too young (31) to have ever seen Genesis, and I wasn't a Genesis fan during the Ray Wilson tour. Some people don't look at this series of Hackett tour with much appreciation, and consider it a cash grab or a non-progressive thing to do; simply looking back at the past. For a person like me, this is a dream opportunity, as Genesis has become my absolute favorite band. With all that out of the way... This performance in Massachusetts was a welcome much shorter trip from Portland, Maine. I purchased the Meet and Greet package and was not disappointed. I got to have a few minutes of one on one time with Steve. A nice poster print from the Royal Albert hall gig was provided for signing, and I also got my LP of "Voyage of the Acolyte" signed. What a pleasant gentleman. I told him how I am hoping to see a tour of solo material in the near future, and he said that was the plan for next year. I can't wait. I kept trying to stuff words into the conversation, as when meeting someone I revere and appreciate this much I want to find a way to kind of sum up my thoughts and feelings. Nervousness tends to get the better of me though and I ramble. Before leaving the room I told him that his music, both with Genesis and on his own means so much to me, and that it all influences my creative process in ways not much else can. I started to get a bit choked up and I think he saw that, and if he was able to detect my sincerity, that's all I can really hope for. Onto the show. This was possible a better performance than last year. The setlist flow was better in my opinion. Opening with "Dance on a Volcano" and going into "Squonk" is a better set opener than last year, which was "Watcher of the Skies" into "Dancing with the Moonlit Knight". The immediate energy of "Dance" works better as an opener. These first two songs were unfortunately a bit "rough". Nad Sylvan clearly hadn't had much warm up time, and it showed. A few weak notes here and there. He clearly came into his own by the third number, which was "Dancing with the Moonlit Knight". From that point on, Nad and the rest of the band were spot on. Unfortunately Steve and the band are not performing any Wind & Wuthering material on this year's iteration of the tour, but they have thrown in "Squonk", "The Return of the Giant Hogweed" and "Lilywhite Lilith". These were all very welcome additions. He also performed "The Knife", which I did not quite understand, as he didn't play on Trespass. However, it was explained that this tour is not meant to be a showcase for Steve Hackett himself, it's a tour to showcase the music of Genesis. As Steve certainly performed "The Knife" a lot in his early Genesis days, I can understand it from that perspective. Seriously folks, this band performs the hell out of "The Musical Box". The emotional impact of that song has not diminished over the years. When the final section begins I can't imagine I was the only person with tears in his eyes. My girlfriend certainly had the same experience. After over 1.5 hours of amazing music, I blew my own mind when I realized they hadn't performed "Supper's Ready" yet, which I knew was happening. The emotional crescendos and climaxes the track is known for were elegantly delivered. The "New Jerusalem" portion was heart-wrenching to say the least. The sound was very solid. Howeverm I'm not a sound engineer, so I can't comment on this in detail. Great clarity, could have been a TAD louder, but no complaints. The encore ("Watcher of the Skies" and "Los Endos" with "Myopia" and "Slogans" bit included) was slightly louder which gave them a big conclusive impact. The lighting was fantastic, with the star like lighting effect during "Watcher of the Skies" stealing the show. All in all, for a "legacy" type of setlist, Hackett and company deliver in spades. There is clear reverence for the material and they play it with emotion, energy and passion. What Yes are doing pales in comparison. I've had a great time seeing Yes the last two years, but I never got to see them with Jon Anderson, so it's more just the pleasure of seeing the music performed live. Apart from Chris Squire I don't feel like they are putting their hearts into though, and are operating on borrowed time. Not the case for Steve Hackett, at least in my opinion. I could ramble on about the show for many more paragraphs, but it really isn't necessary. See this tour, as Steve probably won't do one like it again. Top 5 Highlights: "The Return of the Giant Hogweed", "The Musical Box", "Lilywhite Lilith", "Firth of Fifth", "Supper's Ready" http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/steve-hackett/2014/the-lynn-memorial-auditorium-lynn-ma-53cdb7f5.html EDIT: Tried to add a link to a video of the "Watcher of the Skies" intro, but the link isn't recognized. Edited by calm_sea - November 22 2014 at 11:43 |
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Rick Robson
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Posted: November 22 2014 at 16:39 | |
Sometimes it seems that people now are much more keen on his Genesis Revisited stuff than on his own older solo stuff, which in my point of view should have been much more completely explored in his live shows and gigs up to date.
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calm_sea
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Posted: November 22 2014 at 18:32 | |
I'm a huge fan of Steve's solo stuff, especially the first 4 or 5 records, so I'm very much looking forward to a tour featuring his own music. Of course he'll include a couple Genesis songs, as he usually does, but getting to hear "Everyday" live will be great. I still consider it a real treat to be able to see him perform a full set of Genesis songs with such authenticity. Really a great thing.
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kenmartree
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Posted: December 03 2014 at 07:49 | |
thanks for your post, I'm going to see Steve in Seattle on Dec 10, I'm 55 but was too young to see Steve with Genesis however I saw Duke tour, a good show but not the same. This is a dream come true to me, Steve's band is very tight as anyone who has seen "live at hammersmith" knows.
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bhikkhu
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Posted: December 03 2014 at 14:27 | |
I saw him twice in 2010 and while the Genesis material was nice I would have preferred to hear more from his own catalogue. Honestly he's got enough A material that he would still have to cut some gems to keep from running long.
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Skullhead
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Posted: December 09 2014 at 03:48 | |
I was down in SF this week and caught the Regency Ballroom show. My wife and I had good floor seats and were really looking forward to the show. My wife is a huge Hackett fan for his solo stuff.. not so much for Genesis. She loves his acoustic work best.
This was my first time seeing Steve live outside of many DVD's etc. This show was very hit and miss for me. I'm a drummer so the first thing I noticed was the huge 80's looking rock hit. This is a long way from what Phil was using in early Genesis. Phil played very tight and clean on more of a modified Jazz style kit with concert toms. The drum sound at this show was horrible. Big reverb all over the place that muddied up the sound and so much of Genesis from that era was all the wonderful articulations Phil would put into the music in a clear and concise form. This drummer was like a typical rock drummer playing the basics, but not in any way delivering anything that remotely sounded like Genesis. The drum mix was just really bad. Maybe they didn't have their own sound man? If not, they should. The blonde cape wearing bassist was competent enough, but clearly didn't play in the precise way Rutherford did. I would however give him a passing grade. Now, the singer. This was just horrible. I've seen many Genesis tribute bands all with better knockoffs than this. He was like an 80's hairband rocker trying to sing Gabriel. This was just awful. I just can't understand why Steve would not bring a much better vocalist out there on tour. Roger King is competent enough, and it's understood Tony Banks are some big shoes to fill. He plays fine, but lacks the feeling and expression of Banks. Another huge problem is the digital keys. They are about as close an approximation to the great vintage keys on the albums and early tours as a photo taken of an painting on your smart phone. It's recognizable. That's all. I don't know why they don't tour with at least a vintage Hammond M100 chopped into a road case, and an ARP. This is Steve Hackett, the real deal. Why not just go all out and do it right? I have seen tribute bands using the real analog keys. Steve sounded great... but I wish he was surrounded by equal talent... or at least close. Wetton was a great choice in the 90's. It would be better to have a great vocalist sing the songs in their own way... or just be themselves. If you bring a guy trying to sounds like Peter, then get a real clone, otherwise, this is not horse shoes. I saw the Musical Box and they did this material much better justice. Very detail oriented. The thing to remember is that the Peter era Genesis was very conceptual, lyrical music. It's just so critical this is not overlooked. The theatrics of it are so important in a live situation. The music beyond Steve was not executed well enough for me. At times it was, but not collectively throughout the evening. Steve I think is in a tough spot. He loves this era music more than the other former Genesis members. He knows fans want to hear it and probably feels a responsibility to keep it alive from a lone original member. But Genesis at it's best was those 5 great guys.. 4 at least. My feeling is that Steve would serve better to simply go out and tour with The Musical Box. Either go the distance like Musical Box and really deliver the whole show... right across the boards with costumes, slide shows, a real clone singer or a great singer bringing their own style, or just stay away from this iconic material. What Fripp did on this years tour was much better. Fresh new interpretations of much his classic stuff. 3 drummers, bringing the horns back... and using real pro top shelf guys to execute it. I love Steve Hackett, his intentions and of course his solo work and his work in Genesis. But I would not highly recommend this tour. It's almost over anyway. The only criticism I would have of Steve would be that he played Horizons way too fast in tempo. It would make more impact slower so you could really hear the articulations. In conclusion, I would guess the original members are not thrilled Steve is doing this, and we are not thrilled they won't get together and play this stuff correctly one last time before they all pass on. Edited by Skullhead - December 09 2014 at 03:57 |
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Metalmarsh89
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Posted: December 11 2014 at 11:50 | |
I saw the show last night in Seattle (December 10), and I thought it was well worth the 5 hour trip and money for tickets.
Steve himself is what, 65 years old? Well, he looks good and executed the music well for someone his age, even if he had to go through a few bottles of baby powder. His solos were either spot-on the originals, or welcome variations. His backing band perfromed exceptionally. The overall sound was not coordinated particularly well, and the drums sometimes masked the vocals or even Steve, which was most unfortunate in some of the exciting parts like The Return of the Giant Hogweed or Squonk when the music really gets rocking. Not the musicians' fault, as the sound engineer should have set things up better. It was a small theater, which may have been a factor. The singer was most appreciated. He sounded similar to Peter Gabriel, but didn't always stick to the Gabriel presentation. That was fine, he did a fantastic job on every part, and though his theatrics were not extravagant, they were fine. The backup keyboardist was a pleasuree to watch. He did well on the flute, and phenominal on the sax. As for the songs played, Supper's Ready was almost orgasmic. Vocals were perfect, from the slumbering pace pn the mountain of human flesh to the roraring angel standing in the sun. The bass was very good in Apocalypse section (and the whole show). But at the end, Hackett continued to shred for another 2-3 minutes, which carried that high to another level. Some other notably well-performed pieces were The Knife, Fly on a Windshield/Broadway Melody, and the Musical Box. I was very pleased. This is coming from a 25 year old male who does not play an instrument, but I enjoy Genesis and am thankful for the great show. I don't expect the chance to see this music again from the original members either. |
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Skullhead
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Posted: December 11 2014 at 15:14 | |
I'm really glad you enjoyed the show and you will be forever thankful to someday be able to tell others younger than you that you saw an original member of Genesis in concert! It's just great that you at the young age of 25 have found this kind of music and are inspired by it particularly not being a musician. I can only suggest that those who saw Genesis in the 1970's were even much more fortunate. I hope somehow you can inspire your peers to take notice and support higher quality music in general than what most are embracing. I love Seattle by the way! Best to you |
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lobinero
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Posted: December 17 2014 at 13:25 | |
I saw them at the Orpheum theater in LA Dec, 6 , 14. My first time and it was marvelous. They started late and played continuously for 2 hrs. All of their songs were from the Gabriel era. A true open window to the beginning of Genesis. Their lead singer is awesome and will not make you miss Gabriel. The acoustics were very good too. It is truly a gem for all genesis lovers. I STRONGLY RECOMMEND SEEING STEVE HACKETT IF YOU ARE A GENESIS LOVER. soak up on some of their early albums and you will appreciate the concert even more.
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Progosopher
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Posted: December 17 2014 at 14:49 | |
I was there too! Just posted my own review. Did you actually see Alan White?
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Skullhead
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Posted: December 18 2014 at 01:05 | |
We must have seen a different singer on stage. I can't imaging seeing this singer who sounded more like Dee Snider than any imagined Genesis singer. I miss Peter Gabriel, Phil or even a decent Genesis tribute band singer. I didn't get it at all. |
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Progosopher
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Posted: December 20 2014 at 14:36 | |
I thought Sylvan a good stand-in for PG. At times he sounded almost exactly the same while at others not so much so. Overall, he gave a good performance in Seattle. No one can replace PG, though.
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calm_sea
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Posted: December 21 2014 at 11:44 | |
I'm also young (31) and am happy for the experience of seeing this music performed in a live setting. I just wish there were more modern bands playing progressive music a bit more on the classic styles. Astra is one of the only ones doing it these days (that I'm aware of). Unfortunately the members of Genesis aren't going to be around forever, and I don't see them all reuniting to play the 70's stuff any time soon, so I'll take what I can get. Steve is a classy guy and was great to meet. I hope he continues playing for many more years. |
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Posted: December 21 2014 at 17:54 | |
No you weren't. You just weren't hip to the fact that they were around, were awesome, and were touring. I'm a tad older than you and could have seen Genesis perform The Lamb' in San Diego, but I just didn't realize at the time what a great band they were. Opportunity lost. |
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Matthew _Gill
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Posted: April 27 2015 at 07:02 | |
I'm probably in an extreme minority but I wish he'd just play his solo stuff live ala Collins and Gabriel. I'd be more than happy to see him drop something like Watcher of the skies for The fundamentals of Brainwashing.
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JD
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Posted: April 27 2015 at 10:48 | |
I tend to agree with this. It was interesting at first and nice to hear at least one of the original'ish members doing current version. But it seemed to get old fast as he just kept on releasing more and more of the same. I totally prefer his original solo stuff to the 'ol Genesis rehashes now.
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Garion81
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Posted: December 29 2015 at 23:51 | |
Nad Sylvan is hit and miss on the Collins tunes but he is pretty great on the Gabriel songs. You can hear him sing with Agents of Mercy and his own project Unifaun. You may not like him but to say he sings like an 80's hair band singer is beyond ridiculous. Hackett stated this was his take on the Genesis material. In other words playing the material to his satisfaction I guess you were looking for Genesis. I saw this show twice in 2014 once in La Mirada early in the year and once in December 2014 at the Orpheum Theater in LA. The set lists were different for each show but I left both shows with a big smile on my face. This is from someone who saw Genesis with Hackett in 1976 and 1977.
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