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Topic: Rd 1 Portland Bracket: Area v. Talk Talk Posted: December 20 2014 at 07:07 |
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How can a pop band of the 80s win? |
they didn't man. BUT if they had.. you.. and any Camel voters would have no room for complaint. A genuinely progressive and ground breaking group defeated by a generic knock off who contributed little to the genre. Akin to a pop group knocking off a prog band. However it isn't about that is it. As a very wise long time PA's veteran once noted.. there really is no accounting for personal tastes.
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Posted: December 20 2014 at 06:31 |
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Posted: December 20 2014 at 06:31 |
octopus-4 wrote:
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Talk Talk didn't win. The poll is finished . Have you heard either of their last two albums?
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Posted: December 20 2014 at 06:30 |
octopus-4 wrote:
How can a pop band of the 80s win? |
They didn't. The poll was closed one week ago.
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Posted: December 20 2014 at 06:12 |
How can a pop band of the 80s win?
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Posted: December 20 2014 at 04:41 |
Yeah, that's what i thought you meant, Gabe, rock that is progressive, not Prog, and I agree.
Not very familiar with the math rock part of the sub-genre, but I've seen Battles' music labeled as such, and their debut is perhaps the most prog post/math rock album I've heard, come to think of it, so I kind of see what you mean.
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Posted: December 13 2014 at 20:48 |
None that I can recall I would go and label "prog", unless an overlap with math rock is part of that band's recipe, but I think usually that results in a more math-rock styled group anyway. Post rock is represented on this site alongside the classic 70's prog groups, and rightfully so in my opinion, as you could say they share a willingness to explore and experiment with dynamics and textures in often longer-form compositions, so rock that is progressive.
Math rock generally has more in common with what I'd call prog, because of the heavy use of odd time sigs/time sig changes and the multiple change-ups of parts in a given piece of music, which leads to the question of why they decided to merge the two genres here but that's another topic.
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Posted: December 13 2014 at 15:33 |
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There'd be quite a few. Who cares anyway? | True.
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Just out of curiosity, Gabe, but what post rock bands do you consider prog? And do you consider these bands Prog or progressive rock? I can see that the earlist bands like Tortoise, Mogwai, GY!BE and Sigur Rós can be labelled progressive rock, but Prog?
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Posted: December 07 2014 at 07:55 |
oh for fs! don't let this happen!
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Posted: December 04 2014 at 18:59 |
Just took another listen to Spirit of Eden today. What a gorgeous album!
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Posted: December 03 2014 at 18:31 |
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Posted: December 03 2014 at 17:56 |
micky wrote:
irrelevant wrote:
akamaisondufromage wrote:
Any more Talk Talk fans out there? btw I'm sure they made two albums worthy of being progressive - some seem to be sayig only one of them is!?
| Progressive but not "prog" |
The site itself long stopped being simply about prog long ago man....
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Posted: December 03 2014 at 17:27 |
irrelevant wrote:
akamaisondufromage wrote:
Any more Talk Talk fans out there? btw I'm sure they made two albums worthy of being progressive - some seem to be sayig only one of them is!?
| Progressive but not "prog" |
so what. Prog.. progressive.. it is all the same.. but oh so very different. Give me a progressive group over a prog group ANY DAY of the week. progressive describes the majority of the database here and a great number of recent additions to the database. Prog is a ingrained genre with dots to connectas much as any genre, thus those that fail get the dread 'not prog tag', however progressive rock is free of such bullsh*t, simply musicians doing music that inspires them using the kitchen sink and more. You know.. what the original 70's masters did before it became instuttionalized and they became parodies of themselves and others simply became modern updates of the same sound and style. Prog is a dead genre.. or one on life support if one wants to be really generous. It will last creativity as long as the last boomer is around. However progressive rock is alive and well in a vast number of current and recent history bands. That is what many young people, and many musicians are into. I like to sh*t on Steven Wilson whenever I get on the chance but one smart thing he did was deny the ;prog' tag. That is a toe tage for new groups wanted to have audiences and careers past playing old folks prog festivals and sites like this. Many bands are tagged by this site as 'prog' yet strangely deny it, or blissfully unaware they have been lumped in with prog as a genre. The site itself long stopped being simply about prog long ago man.... otherwise we wouldn't have the genres we have here: for example the RIO/avant, electronic, krautrock, crossover, fusion/JR subgenres even to a large extent the folksie sub genres.
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Posted: December 03 2014 at 17:25 |
Polymorphia wrote:
akamaisondufromage wrote:
Any more Talk Talk fans out there? btw I'm sure they made two albums worthy of being progressive - some seem to be sayig only one of them is!?
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this is what I thought, but, I'm fairly sure that both albums warrrant the description Prog(ressive) ^ I don't care for the distinction either! Whichever, both albums are fantastic
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Posted: December 03 2014 at 17:23 |
irrelevant wrote:
There'd be quite a few. Who cares anyway? |
True.
Edited by The Bearded Bard - December 03 2014 at 17:36
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Posted: December 03 2014 at 17:20 |
There'd be quite a few. Who cares anyway?
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Posted: December 03 2014 at 17:11 |
irrelevant wrote:
akamaisondufromage wrote:
Any more Talk Talk fans out there? btw I'm sure they made two albums worthy of being progressive - some seem to be sayig only one of them is!?
| Progressive but not "prog" |
That has to be in the same way all post rock bands are progressive but not prog then.
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Posted: December 03 2014 at 17:07 |
I like Talk Talk, but the samples I heard from Area convinced me to give them my vote.
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Posted: December 03 2014 at 16:12 |
akamaisondufromage wrote:
Any more Talk Talk fans out there? btw I'm sure they made two albums worthy of being progressive - some seem to be sayig only one of them is!?
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They're probably either referring to the better known one, Spirit of Eden, or asserting that Spirit of Eden isn't prog and Laughing Stock is.
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Posted: December 03 2014 at 16:09 |
akamaisondufromage wrote:
Any more Talk Talk fans out there? btw I'm sure they made two albums worthy of being progressive - some seem to be sayig only one of them is!?
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Progressive but not "prog"
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