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Topic: 2nd Round Portland Bracket: Gentle Giant v. Area Posted: December 13 2014 at 08:49
From the Eclectric Conference we have the decisive winner of a 1st Rd matchup with Mahavishnu Orchestra
From England.
GENTLE GIANT!!!
From the RPI Confererence we have the winner of a very tight match with Talk Talk
From Italy
AREA!!!!
Vegas has installed Gentle Giant as a 20 vote favorite. Can Area keep it close. Perhaps but it is only because it is Area that the spread is not much higher. Gentle Giant is a dark horse for many to make it all the way to the final 4.
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Posted: December 13 2014 at 09:41
I never understood the Giant, bought the Giant in the Box DVD and there it is gathering spider webs in the bottom of the "I will never play them again" box of albums.
They are what I call complexity for the sake of complexity.
Area is simply wonderful.
Iván
Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - December 13 2014 at 09:43
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Posted: December 13 2014 at 09:57
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
They are what I call complexity for the sake of complexity.
I disagree at least partly on that.
True, their credo was to be as adventurous as possible (as they stated in the liner notes in one of their early albums), which might have led them to some 'complexity for the sake of complexity'.
But - and of course this is highly personal - I find an album like Acquiring The Taste as enjoyable as some of the early Genesis albums, pure ear candy.
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Posted: December 13 2014 at 10:00
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
I never understood the Giant, bought the Giant in the Box DVD and there it is gathering spider webs in the bottom of the "I will never play them again" box of albums.
They are what I call complexity for the sake of complexity.
Area is simply wonderful.
Iván
exclude the first albums with Phil Shuman and I'd agree with you Ivan. GG had two very definable and easy to hear musical phases. Phil and post Phil. The later albums were good, but lacked atmosphere or soul as I call it. Technically perfect complex music but zero connection to the soul. However those first albums did have it. A track like Schooldays that can bring tears to your eyes never would have been, nor was ever, done by GG 2ed.
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Posted: December 13 2014 at 10:02
If anything, I find their music surprisingly lucid for the amount of complexity it involves. Their execution is usually very precise and clear-minded. Very tight with hardly an extra note. It is the silly goofiness that Shulman's vocals bring to the table that, I think, turns off a lot of listeners. I kind of find it charming but I can see why it might make it difficult for people to take the band seriously.
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Posted: December 13 2014 at 10:07
micky wrote:
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
I never understood the Giant, bought the Giant in the Box DVD and there it is gathering spider webs in the bottom of the "I will never play them again" box of albums.
They are what I call complexity for the sake of complexity.
Area is simply wonderful.
Iván
exclude the first albums with Phil Shuman and I'd agree with you Ivan. GG had two very definable and easy to hear musical phases. Phil and post Phil. The later albums were good, but lacked atmosphere or soul as I call it. Technically perfect complex music but zero connection to the soul. However those first albums did have it. A track like Schooldays that can bring tears to your eyes never would have been, nor was ever, done by GG 2ed.
Well, I'd say: exclude the first three or four GG albums. I agree with you, though, Micky.
Not a big fan of post-Phil GG, with some songs as an exception.
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