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Rednight
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Topic: Gibraltar Encyclopedia of Progressive Rock Posted: March 10 2015 at 11:49 |
Way back when, a friend who was getting out of prog because he had found religion suggested I look into the Gibraltar Encyclopedia of Progressive Rock (G.E.P.R.) as a go-to source for all things prog. Since discovering Prog Archives, I've disbanded any interest in perusing the former as P.A. seems the full-service, one stop web site to visit when researching different bands and the like. I'm just wondering if there's anyone out there who still has a soft spot in their heart for G.E.P.R. and utilizes it now and again for what it has to offer, however little that may be.
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apps79
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Posted: March 10 2015 at 13:21 |
Wow, beautiful topic Great, great source, much more in an amateur level than PA, basically ran by Prog enthusiast Fred Trafton and a few volunteers.But you discovered extremely obscure bands and the description of groups and music were absolutely to the point (when there was one). Loved it back then, it has been quite a few years with no updates, I wonder where this guy is now.
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verslibre
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Posted: March 10 2015 at 13:24 |
GEPR was a great resource back in the day. A lot of time was invested in that thing, just like PA (which I agree is now the best prog stop on the InterWebs).
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: March 10 2015 at 13:41 |
I discovered a ton of new prog in the mid to late 90's from the old GEPR. I grabbed a copy of the entire GEPR (probably an ftp from the old usenet rec.music.progressive :-) printed it out and spent a few hours reading the whole thing. Then I made my list of albums to look for and began the search. Fun times...
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Sagichim
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Posted: March 10 2015 at 14:49 |
Ah yes Fred Trafton, he even has an account here. I use to frequently search that web for new bands to explore, I think I went through every band and maid lists of what to order. I also used to wait for his updates to see what he comes up with. I got into so many bands because of that site, usually it was accurate but every now and then it had a few flops. I haven't visited there in years, the archives is a better resource for sharing music and communicating.
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zravkapt
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Posted: March 10 2015 at 16:25 |
Rednight wrote:
a friend who was getting out of prog because he had found religion |
Prog is the devil's music. GEPR was my go to source before PA came along. I discovered a lot of music on that site(and its sister site...progreviews.com I think it was).
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Gerinski
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Posted: March 10 2015 at 16:53 |
Used to visit the site long, long ago, not anymore for many years. Some good stuff but PA got nicer. I would swear that I once saw an interesting 'Prog Rock family tree' document there, which I can not find anymore.
Ah, and its article about instruments was also my first inspiration for my own more extensive article I posted in the PA Blogs section.
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SteveG
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Posted: March 10 2015 at 17:54 |
^This.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: March 11 2015 at 01:38 |
Loved it, truly my major Prog reference before PA was created.
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Atavachron
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Posted: March 11 2015 at 01:54 |
Fred is the best, the GEPR can be a more accessible and easy website when first navigating the web for Prog. I still submit a new column to my 'Progressive Rock Moments' now & then.
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M@X
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Posted: March 11 2015 at 11:45 |
PA rules
Thanks for the support
Edited by M@X - March 11 2015 at 11:47
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Prog On !
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Gerinski
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Posted: March 11 2015 at 13:58 |
The thing with PA is, there is no contents published by the site itself as such, the 'Prog Rock Guides' section is (I believe) dead frozen for a long time. OK bands and bios are added by the Collabs but actually the bios can have been written by any normal member having suggested the addition. For the rest, all the contents of the site is created by its members. Anybody can add albums, reviews, ratings, and the forums are obviously created and discussed among members (although Admins and Collabs can also of course create their topics, I don't think we can consider these as 'site-published contents').
So you can not actually praise nor criticize PA for being a 'good' or a 'bad' Prog Rock site. At most you could only praise or criticize its members for posting material of better or lesser quality. For good and for bad, PA is just a platform for any people to post stuff about Prog Rock, and it provides some 'umbrella' services such as creating the statistics from that user-added stuff such as the Top X lists, most popular album, popular artists list etc.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: March 11 2015 at 14:05 |
Like many others (so it seems) GEPR was my first internet resource for prog, and w hen I discovered PA, I visited GEPR less and less, and now that I read this thread, I notice that I didn't visit it for a long time anymore, almost forgot about its existence.
I still have a soft spot for the old days, though. There were some articles on GEPR from Mike Ohman about Italian prog that I printed out and studied for a long time.
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Fred Trafton
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Posted: March 13 2015 at 12:20 |
Why yes, I do. I'm Fred Trafton, former editor of the GEPR. Sadly, I haven't had time to work on it in years. But the good news is that a consortium of fans is currently working to revive the site. Hopefully in a few months you'll see it reappear with new content, along with the old content. And without all the ads ProgArchives makes you wade through
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Fred Trafton - Editor, Gibraltar Encyclopedia of Progressive Rock
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Fred Trafton
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Posted: March 13 2015 at 12:24 |
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Fred Trafton - Editor, Gibraltar Encyclopedia of Progressive Rock
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M@X
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Posted: March 13 2015 at 12:37 |
Prog on
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Prog On !
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Rednight
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Posted: March 13 2015 at 13:06 |
Thanks, Fred.
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verslibre
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Posted: March 13 2015 at 14:11 |
Fred Trafton wrote:
But the good news is that a consortium of fans is currently working to revive the site. |
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clarke2001
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Posted: March 13 2015 at 15:06 |
I was visiting GEPR ages ago, until I discovered PA. I even made a comparison list - huuuge list of bands listed in GEPR but not listed in PA, with dozens and hundreds of bands...it's still somewhere in the collab zone...however, I'm sure that such a list would be significantly shorter these days!
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dr wu23
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Posted: March 13 2015 at 15:46 |
Tom Ozric wrote:
Loved it, truly my major Prog reference before PA was created. |
Same for me.....used it a lot in the past.
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