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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2015 at 18:41
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

For the sake of argument, I will agree with Young, and further propose that Strawberry Fields was also the archetypal Prog Rock song and gave recording artists the expanded pallet to compose and record the Progressive Rock that flourished in the late sixties and took off in the early seventies.

The thing is, Strawberry Fields has almost nothing to do with what prog was or is.   There is no doubt Psych-rock was largely the predecessor of Prog, that's obvious.   But things like SFF were, in typical Beatles style, tailored, reduced, and distilled so that one could actually listen to and digest it; they were songcrafters, not art musicians.

There appears to have been a simultaneous revelation about what you could do with the rock format ~ George Martin, Brian Wilson, Kit Lambert, Cooper/Guercio, etc. ~ and what became prog essentially was what an artist and a good producer could accomplish.   Prog was invented by its time, not a band, certainly not a 3-minute Pop Vocal act like the Beatles.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2015 at 18:35
Ouch! That hurt. OuchLOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2015 at 18:32
it never did.. it is just the figment of some record company executive's mind on how he can sell albums..  oh english..  songs longer than 3minutes 30.. people calling it progressive.. f**k it..  too long ..call it prog.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2015 at 18:30
^I guess that Prog never existed either. OK, Never mind then.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2015 at 18:22
Is some kind of sick joke Steve Angry the Beatles? They never existed!

 I read it first here on PA's! Thumbs Up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2015 at 18:20
Ok, time for the final debate. You know what the age old question is, so let's settle it and try to have some fun.
In his 2010 book, Electric Eden, author Rob Young argues that Strawberry Fields Forever by the Beatles defined  what was the archetypal British Psychedelic rock song, based on the fact that it was constructed from two out of tune (by a semi tone) songs that were patched together in the studio, utilized a ground breaking new approach to pop songs with orchestration by utilizing a mellotron, used backwards recorded, as well as other, tape effects. All combined with "arty" lyrics.
 
For the sake of argument, I will agree with Young, and further propose that Strawberry Fields was also the archetypal Prog Rock song and gave recording artists the expanded pallet to compose and record the Progressive Rock that flourished in the late sixties and took off in the early seventies.
 
Every member of PA is a Prog expert, to some extent, so please chime in, and let's keep it civil  (and fun.) Smile


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