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Hi Guys, please help me!

I'm looking for songs with strong repetition in its structure, something based on a strong base line, for example, that repeats and repeats ad infinitum. I'm interested in checking how the composers developed their ideas when there's not a lot of harmonic change.

Thanks a lot
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Krautrock and Prog Electronic often build this way. Check out Can, Neu!, and Klaus Schulze. Swans as well, though more extreme. If you want to get really extreme with it, you could try Orthrelm.
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Originally posted by Polymorphia Polymorphia wrote:

Krautrock and Prog Electronic often build this way. Check out Can, Neu!, and Klaus Schulze. Swans as well, though more extreme. If you want to get really extreme with it, you could try Orthrelm.

Thanks for your reply!

I'm sorry if I wasn't more specific... I'd like to see suggestions of songs featuring repetition... I'm a bit lazy and I don't wanna go through all my kraut and electronic music trying to find what I'm looking for ;)
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It's not my cup of tea, to be honest (tea is not much to my liking anyway), but some tracks that passed my thoughts are:

PF - Money
PF - One of These Days
KC - Starless (the psychedelic guitar middle part)

But most interesting: Yes - Machine Messiah. A simple motif returning very often but also makes an impressive development.
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NOT prog but rather post-punk, PIL's Metal Box.  Automatically thought of it.

Some of Steve Hillage's Fish Rising might be a good one for you, at it's actually prog!




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Thanks guys! I'm currently composing a prog song that has a lot of repetition and I'm looking for inspiration ;)
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I think several of Mike Oldfield's works would qualify, particularly Tubular Bells, Incantations and Amarok.

Tubular Bells has the famous repeating introductory theme, the Part I finale with more and more instruments being layered, and the Part II finale, which does the same thing with the Sailor's Hornpipe.

Incantations is a double album that consists of four side-long compositions, with minimalist and Native American influences.

Amarok is remarkable for being a 60 minute composition built on a handful themes that are played on different instruments (mostly played by Oldfield) and transposed in different keys (see this Amarok analysis). The music constantly changes and this might not qualify as "repeats and repeats ad infinitum" but I think it's interesting from a compositional point of view. There are part of the album I don't like and it's certainly an uncommercial album, but I appreciate what Oldfield was trying to accomplish.

Many of Tangerine Dream's sequencer-driven compositions reply on repetition and gradual variations. The second part of Thru Metamorphic Rocks from Force Majeure is a good example. Their album Tangram is sometimes described as an electronic Tubular Bells.


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One of my favorite long epic prog tracks with those aspects of repetition  is Guillibles Travails by Motorpsycho....imho one of the best things they have ever done.
Of course Echoes by Floyd is one of the best also. I would also ck out Causa Sui....Euporie Tide or The Summer Sessions.
 
 


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Prime example by Can:
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From one of my favourite albums of all time. Not enough people know this.
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Another legend. I seem to like repetitive stuff.
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Here is the track I'm currently working on https://soundcloud.com/rhesusfactor/the-chaos-of-time-work-in-progress

These are the first ideas, no mixing... pretty rough, be warned )
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Originally posted by Irrgarten Irrgarten wrote:

Hi Guys, please help me!

I'm looking for songs with strong repetition in its structure, something based on a strong base line, for example, that repeats and repeats ad infinitum. I'm interested in checking how the composers developed their ideas when there's not a lot of harmonic change.

Thanks a lot

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 Maybe Gong with The Isle of Everywhere? Groovy bass line and psychodelic-space build up...
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Some minimalistic music:

Terry Riley - In C
Terry Riley - A Rainbow in Curved Air
Franco Battiato - L'Egitto Prima delle Sabbie (quite too strongly repetitive...just 6 notes for 15 minutes)
Giusto Pio - Motore Immobile

The so-called "Virgin period" of Tangerine Dream features long tracks repetitive enough...

If it's for inspiration and you also want to sell it, ignore Battiato. He was fired by his label after that album.
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