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verslibre 
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 Posted: January 09 2017 at 15:52 |
 dr prog wrote:
ELP is half the reason why people call prog pomptious and pretentious. Most prog isn't like this at all.
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Yes is the other half, right?  Prog is not a cul-de-sac...it's the highway to the stars!
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dr prog
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Posted: January 09 2017 at 20:07 |
verslibre wrote:
dr prog wrote:
ELP is half the reason why people call prog pomptious and pretentious. Most prog isn't like this at all.
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Yes is the other half, right? Prog is not a cul-de-sac...it's the highway to the stars! |
Nah some early Genesis is |
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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: January 09 2017 at 21:38 |
Upbeat Tango Monday wrote:
Greenslade is not that good. |
Agreed. They're really not. An imminently forgettable band, that people did indeed forget.
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mechanicalflattery
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Posted: January 09 2017 at 22:05 |
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Both groups have aged incredibly poorly, but at least ELP can be memorable. Greenslade can be enjoyable, but nobody outside of this website has any reason to bother remembering them. It's prog for people who insist on only listening to 70's prog and that have already listened to everything else.
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dr prog
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Posted: January 09 2017 at 22:32 |
The Dark Elf wrote:
Upbeat Tango Monday wrote:
Greenslade is not that good. |
Agreed. They're really not. An imminently forgettable band, that people did indeed forget. |
Nursery cryme is not that good
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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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dr wu23
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Posted: January 10 2017 at 09:36 |
The Dark Elf wrote:
Upbeat Tango Monday wrote:
Greenslade is not that good. |
Agreed. They're really not. An imminently forgettable band, that people did indeed forget. |
Ahem....it's eminently forgettable .....if you are going to insult someone at least spell it correctly. btw....both bands are basically unknown to the public at large.....and proggers do indeed know both bands. I ask people with mainstream tastes all the time if they know any prog bands and I bring up big names....some know Genesis, Yes, Floyd, Tull...but very few have ever heard of ELP.
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Flight123
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Posted: January 10 2017 at 10:20 |
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Are you kidding? Number 1 albums plus 'Fanfare' as a hit, their influence went beyond prog. One of the greatest!
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dr wu23
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Posted: January 10 2017 at 11:51 |
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Are you kidding? Number 1 albums plus 'Fanfare' as a hit, their influence went beyond prog. One of the greatest! |
Number one albums where.....on what pop charts..?  My old friends over 60 know who they are but no young people do unless they are into music deeply. None of my daughters, 32, 37, or son in law 34 ever heard of them until I enlightened them. I visit a local used vinyl music store on a regular basis and you'd be surprised how many don't know who ELP were. A few will say....I've heard of them but don't know any of their music. I'm sorry but 'old farts' like myself know them but the younger generation simply don't know. Of course the same goes for Greenslade since no one has ever heard of them other than some young prog heads I know.
Edited by dr wu23 - January 10 2017 at 11:54
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Flight123
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Posted: January 10 2017 at 13:49 |
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One example is Tarkus, went to number 1 in UK and 9 on Billboard. . .
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dr prog
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Posted: January 10 2017 at 14:47 |
Fanfare is a bit daggy. They used it for channel 7 sports for about 10 years in Melbourne lol. Emerson should have stuck to organ and piano. Don't like his synth sounds much.
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All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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geekfreak
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Posted: January 25 2017 at 12:16 |
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Dopeydoc
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Posted: January 25 2017 at 13:13 |
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ELP, no contest.
Greenslade has made just one excellent album, the first one
ELP has made many
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maryes
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Posted: January 25 2017 at 16:19 |
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E, L & Palmer wins, but Greenslade deserves detached place in my collection
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The Bearded Bard
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Posted: January 25 2017 at 16:37 |
Dopeydoc wrote:
Greenslade has made just one excellent album, the first one |
That's the only GS album I have, and tbh I can't remember anything from it (will have to dig it out and give it a spin again soon).
Anyway, an easy vote for ELP here for me.
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BaldJean
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Posted: January 26 2017 at 02:51 |
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Greenslade are apparently severely underrated. I consider "Bedside Manners Are Extra" and "Spy Glass Guest" to be excellent albums. they often had a wicked sense of humor in their lyrics that I especially like
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Posted: January 27 2017 at 08:34 |
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I don't know Greenslade hardly at all so I won't vote.
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Posted: January 27 2017 at 08:55 |
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ELP. Greenslade failed to click with me until this day. Maybe I should give them another try.
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noni
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Posted: January 27 2017 at 12:38 |
BaldJean wrote:
Greenslade are apparently severely underrated. I consider "Bedside Manners Are Extra" and "Spy Glass Guest" to be excellent albums. they often had a wicked sense of humor in their lyrics that I especially like
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Two great albums indeed!
There was a distinct sound in Greenslade's sound, specially with Dave Greenslade keyboard skills.. A great sound all their own and classic.
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Posted: March 02 2018 at 02:30 |
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Greenslade
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"I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021
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dr wu23
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Posted: March 02 2018 at 13:27 |
Greenslade did indeed have a wicked playful sense in their lyrics etc....due probably to Lawson who was also in Web....who have two 4 star rated lp's here at PA. And Greenslade and Reeves were both in Colosseum....a fine early prog jazz band. These were not hacks by any ones definition.
ELP did have some fine early albums....mostly crap later on....and they became huge which never happened to Greenslade...but many fine bands ever made it big for numerous reasons.
I still play the first 3 or 4 ELP as well as the first 3 or 4 Greenslade.....but I find myself enjoying the quirky music of Greenslade and Lawson more often than the 'pompous stuff' of ELP these days.
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