The American Politics Thread

Snicolette wrote: I think the biggest takeaway is that 45 signaled that white supremacists should "stand by."  And Biden kept turning the discussion to the people, not 45 or himself.

A very, very loud dog whistle to the deplorables in his base. And as long as they support him he will never denounce them.

^ Why Biden? Because he's a middle of the road centrist and likeable. Bernie and Warren had their fans but not the support of all Dems. Btw, Biden did a good job. He didn't petter out and handled an ass like Trump as well as he could. He didn't lose votes and gained some with the swing voters. And he didn't lose his temper.

I don't want someone who's a loose canon like Trump. Laid back and measured is fine with me and used to be the old normal. Remember?

The debate was shameful. Donald the bully was in rare form. The most interesting thing out of his mouth was calling Biden a number two. Referring to poop.

I think what some people seem to be forgetting is that Joe Biden was vice president for eight years under one of the most popular presidents in recent history. 

Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - September 30 2020 at 09:05

What did it actually mean when Trump told his Nazis to stand by?

Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - September 30 2020 at 09:50

SteveG wrote: AFlowerKingCrimson wrote: As for Trump it seems like the only trick up his sleeve is acting like a jr. high school boy who's angry at the world because the girl he likes is going out with the captain of the football team. He can only resort to insults because he has no real intellect.   Sigmund would have been proud of you.

Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - September 30 2020 at 09:52

Davesax1965 wrote: One habit I've found Americans have is that everything is examined in minute detail.  I don't honestly think the debates will have much effect on the polls: everyone has made their minds up or aren't revealing who they're voting for. If you look at the 5 38 polls, Trump's popularity has actually gone up since his financial affairs were revealed, so it makes no sense at all. Given that he might be the first sitting president whose creditors foreclose on him for hundreds of millions of dollars, you'd think it'd have an adverse effect on his perceived ability to run a country, but, nope. Polls go the other way. Short of appearing naked at a debate, going "Heil Hitler" and having a dump on the floor, Trump won't make himself any more or less popular by his actions.  And I think it's too tight to call. If the results come in a few percentage points of each other, King Orange Donald the First will merely try and schmooze himself in again. Because he's up sh*t creek if he doesn't.

Well, with both sides, all opinions are status quo. Biden has his followers no matter what, and the same with Trump. It's all a formality until election day.

 QUOTE=Davesax1965]One habit I've found Americans have is that everything is examined in minute detail. 

I don't honestly think the debates will have much effect on the polls: everyone has made their minds up or aren't revealing who they're voting for. If you look at the 5 38 polls, Trump's popularity has actually gone up since his financial affairs were revealed, so it makes no sense at all. Given that he might be the first sitting president whose creditors foreclose on him for hundreds of millions of dollars, you'd think it'd have an adverse effect on his perceived ability to run a country, but, nope. Polls go the other way.

Short of appearing naked at a debate, going "Heil Hitler" and having a dump on the floor, Trump won't make himself any more or less popular by his actions. 

And I think it's too tight to call. If the results come in a few percentage points of each other, King Orange Donald the First will merely try and schmooze himself in again. Because he's up sh*t creek if he doesn't. [/QUOTE]