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Poll Question: which more recent prog power trio is best
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    Posted: November 30 2017 at 09:22
Originally posted by Jeffro Jeffro wrote:

The first four King's X discs are magic


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2017 at 12:16
The first four King's X discs are magic. Those albums had a sound and feel that was really special. Dogman is great too but they started to go heavier on that album. A lot of their later catalog is quite varied. Please Come Home Mr Bulbous is one of my favorite KX records but it sounds quite different from a lot of their other stuff. Great band that should have hit big but never did for some reason. They even got some decent MTV airplay with the songs, It's Love and Black Flag.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2017 at 06:26
Originally posted by Cosmiclawnmower Cosmiclawnmower wrote:

My daughter bought me 'Origins of symmetry' (on vinyl) in 2001 and I had high hopes for Muse but they really haven't gone anywhere for me..

Kings X were introduced to me by a Rush fanatic (same guy who introduced me to Max Webster and FM) by playing me 'Out of the Silent Planet' & 'Faith, hope love'. Wasn't too sure to start but they did grow on me and I came to feel there were a really great and sadly underrated band.  So Kings X get my vote.
 
This one is my fave.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 21 2017 at 07:28
Muse very easily, based on their early stuff.  
Never cared for King's X at all. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2017 at 15:52
My daughter bought me 'Origins of symmetry' (on vinyl) in 2001 and I had high hopes for Muse but they really haven't gone anywhere for me..

Kings X were introduced to me by a Rush fanatic (same guy who introduced me to Max Webster and FM) by playing me 'Out of the Silent Planet' & 'Faith, hope love'. Wasn't too sure to start but they did grow on me and I came to feel they were a really great and sadly underrated band.  So Kings X get my vote.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 18 2017 at 13:55
King's X.  They were my fave band of the late '80s/early '90s.  Stunning live.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 15 2017 at 15:45
can't really vote as I only know one of these (not telling which oneTongue)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2017 at 13:44
The band that wrote Gretchen 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2017 at 12:37
King's X by a country mile. Seen them live 3 times. It's an absolute crime that they didn't end up ruling the world.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 13 2017 at 10:41
King's X
I just listen to them more than I do Muse
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 11 2017 at 12:36
I like both, but King's X is one of my all-time Top 3 bands.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 01 2017 at 15:35
I like Muse a great deal. Saw them open for U2 and was impressed.

But I've been a HUGE fan of King's X since 1988 and it's not likely to change. I'll take King's X every...single...time.

King's X is not, nor has ever been, "metal" of any kind...IMO. They've always been a sort of "left-of-center" hard rock band. They definitely have some progressive influences. I've heard dUg more than once cite Chris Squire as a bass influence. Having come out in the middle of the Winger/Bulletboys era they were like getting hit in the face with cold water...SO not what everyone else was doing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 28 2017 at 04:19
I thought all these metal pop groups were hard rock bands. Slayer, Daft Leotards and all... the more holocaust-like the more metal, the more musically oriented  the more hard rock... is that the way this goes? Of course I run the risk of talking music rather than genre.
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Never mind me... I'm still recovering from a head ache caused by exposing my ears to Judas Priest. Yesterday.

Anyway I quite liked Kings X the heavy metal hard rock band but all the alt rock labels on Muse make me think more Dork Rock (my nasty label for 21st C pop groups metal or Mumford) so I haven't even checked them on Spotify.

Right time to change my UK CD for something else... thank gawd for good prog rock....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2017 at 15:36
King's X all the way, great players & songwriters. Muse to me just doesn't have the originality or edge that KX has. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2017 at 09:46
Originally posted by hieronymous hieronymous wrote:

I have to disagree here - I think that "The World Around Me" is very metal, as is "It's Love". So our understanding of what metal is is different. 
 
I've been listening to King's X since a friend lent me his then-new tape of Gretchen in '90. Before that, I'd read a festival review that remarked that King's X "was the only 'real' metal band of the line-up."
 
That said, what I heard surprised me — a lot — as I found myself drawn in by a trio that sounded like no other band on the rock landscape at the time. I thought "These guys aren't really metal...they've duped a lot of people into thinking they are, though!" Which is fine, for marketing purposes. I simply thought they were, and are, too eclectic to be slapped with a label.
 
I feel the same way about early Def Leppard. They were lobbed in with the NWOBHM movement, but I've never felt they were metal. Hard rock, certainly. Not metal. It didn't stop me from playing the hell out of their first three albums back in the day. Wink
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2017 at 05:22
I once heard a Muse track over the radio. I can't remember it.
That's about it regarding this poll.
King's X? Doesn't ring a bell. I keep thinking of this Finnish band called Kingston Wall...but it's not exactly the same methinks.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2017 at 05:08
Originally posted by hieronymous hieronymous wrote:

Originally posted by Jeffro Jeffro wrote:

I agree with you that they transcend genre which makes categorizing them as metal even more perplexing. That's my point. 

Okay, I got sarcastic with my Slayer post. Big f**king deal. However, if you feel like you have to ignore me after interactions in one thread, then so be it. Go for it. No hard feelings.
I apologize - I was drunk when I made that post! I did express what I was feeling but it shouldn't have been directed at you. I think I just don't belong here - I find discussions of genre very frustrating. To me the best Progressive Rock bands transcend genre, but of course there are also bands that fit into the molds cast by the pioneers. The crazy thing is we may have actually been saying the same thing!

The good thing is that it has me listening to them again - they are a band I have come back to again and again over the past almost 30 years. 

No problem. I apologize for the sarcasm. There's lots of things on the internet that are frustrating to discuss. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2017 at 22:58
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by hieronymous hieronymous wrote:

I still think that if you think King's X isn't metal, you're nuts!
 
They're too eclectic to be distilled down into a single word like that, be it metal, prog or whatever.
 
Songs like "Summerland," "Shot of Love/It's Love," "The World Around Me," "Send a Message," "Flies and Blue Skies," etc. aren't metal. I know Ty's guitar playing (and his covetable tone) might be the single greatest element to suggest they may be a "metal" band, but to me it's always been an example of how versatile those three guys are.
 
I'd rather discuss why aren't recording a new album, though. LOL
I have to disagree here - I think that "The World Around Me" is very metal, as is "It's Love". So our understanding of what metal is is different. 

But I don't think I am saying that King's X ARE METAL or ARE PROG-METAL - I was frustrated at the statement that they AREN'T METAL - to me, heavy metal is a fundamental part of their musical identity and aesthetic, but they can't be adequately explained by just that one word. 

I need to stop thinking about this stuff! Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2017 at 22:47
Originally posted by Jeffro Jeffro wrote:

I agree with you that they transcend genre which makes categorizing them as metal even more perplexing. That's my point. 

Okay, I got sarcastic with my Slayer post. Big f**king deal. However, if you feel like you have to ignore me after interactions in one thread, then so be it. Go for it. No hard feelings.
I apologize - I was drunk when I made that post! I did express what I was feeling but it shouldn't have been directed at you. I think I just don't belong here - I find discussions of genre very frustrating. To me the best Progressive Rock bands transcend genre, but of course there are also bands that fit into the molds cast by the pioneers. The crazy thing is we may have actually been saying the same thing!

The good thing is that it has me listening to them again - they are a band I have come back to again and again over the past almost 30 years. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2017 at 15:04
I flipped a coin.....Muse won.

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