Which music do you think works as an opiate? |
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condor
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 24 2005 Location: Norwich Status: Offline Points: 1069 |
Topic: Which music do you think works as an opiate? Posted: January 22 2018 at 09:28 |
For me, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Queen and Oasis.
This is not to say they produce bad music, but that they should be avoided when you are mentally well because they are not good for the soul.
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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
Posted: January 22 2018 at 09:47 |
Why are they not good for the soul? Queen always 'lifts me'
RHCP and Oasis do nothing for me, but I'm sure they make some folk happy. |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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chopper
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Essex, UK Status: Offline Points: 19942 |
Posted: January 22 2018 at 09:50 |
This is even more rubbish than your normal posts.
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Nogbad_The_Bad
Forum & Site Admin Group RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 20197 |
Posted: January 22 2018 at 09:56 |
My goodness you're spouting bollocks on this one.
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Ian
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Guldbamsen
Special Collaborator Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23098 |
Posted: January 22 2018 at 10:20 |
So basically this is just a euphemism for 'popular mainstream acts are crap' because I don't like/get them. 'Why don't people listen to REAL music with REAL artistry behind?'
Please do yourself a favour and leave the musical snobbery to elderly folks who stopped giving new music a chance somewhere around 1980. I caught my grandmother off guard while she was listening to Hansi Hinterseer, a man widely regarded as the absolutely mount everest of saccharine muzak and generally poor taste, yet she had her eyes closed and looked like she was about to orgasm...similarly to when I listen to a beautiful guitar solo or an oboe tickling my aura. There are so many different routes up the mountain - does it really matter which one we choose if personal enjoyment ends up about the same? Edited by Guldbamsen - January 22 2018 at 10:21 |
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condor
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 24 2005 Location: Norwich Status: Offline Points: 1069 |
Posted: January 22 2018 at 10:27 |
I can give you a list of popular mainstream acts who I like and don't believe dull the senses. Supertramp, Roxy Music, Beatles, The Who, Human League, Darkness, Keane, Killers, Snow Patrol Oh, and Biffy Clyro Queen started in the 70s, Red Hot CHilli Peppers in the 80s, and Oasis in the 90s.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: January 22 2018 at 10:45 |
Maybe you should concentrate on making yourself a little clearer off the bat, because the way this thread started out it certainly exuded a snobbish stance.
Why are Oasis, Queen and Red Hot Chili Peppers bad for the soul then? It makes no sense whatsoever in the way you've currently set this conundrum up. Is all music bad for the soul if it doesn't quite gel for you or are the rest of us free to judge for ourselves? Is certain music good for pne particular soul whilst it 'hurts' another? |
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noni
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 03 2008 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1092 |
Posted: January 22 2018 at 10:48 |
I'm confused with this thread
Music does not get me stoned (drugged).. I like most genres of music including some popular bands, but those are far and few between.. My main focus is prog music as this gives me the most enjoyment to listen to .. I love all genres, some more then others .
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condor
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 24 2005 Location: Norwich Status: Offline Points: 1069 |
Posted: January 22 2018 at 10:56 |
Red Hot Chilli Peppers seem to exude feelings without really commenting or remarking on anything Queen seem to be stuck in a nostalgic throwback to a fairground. Oasis seem to be making a lot of noise about very little. This is why I picked them. And yes, it is a personal thing, I should have stressed this more.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: January 22 2018 at 12:35 |
Alright then. I don't really understand where you're coming from but the above should most likely have been included in your OP as if not to turn this into a guessing game a la Nostradamus.
A part of me still thinks you're making these polls in order to make yourself look intelligent and worldly wise. As it is though it is working counterproductively. Try doing a search the next time you're about to make a thread. Chances are there is at least a couple of already existing ones that deal with the subject. I know this feels like I am out to get you, and I am to some extent, but you continue to make these halfbaked threads, where you, the OP, feel as lost as the rest of us. My advice would be to post in threads that are already here - start conversations with other members instead of merely starting subjects that nobody understands or perhaps more succinctly nobody feels make sense. Yet another part of me feels like a piece of sh*t for saying this to you as you seem a little fragile emotionally (yes we do read your posts), but I fear things are only going to get worse if you continue down this road. The internet is a savage place...even friendly sites like this can turn against you if you don't hault and test the waters. Granted the more you get to know the other people around you the easier they'll understand you...also the stuff that currently seems to be out of our intellectual reach. Edited by Guldbamsen - January 22 2018 at 12:37 |
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Vompatti
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Posted: January 22 2018 at 12:57 |
As an intellectual and an elitist I greatly enjoy threads like this one, although I would argue opiates are nowhere near as damaging to the soul as RHCP.
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Logan
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Posted: January 22 2018 at 13:16 |
I feel like starting a thread called The Opium Den.
Electronic music, and various Krautrock and psyche, can have opiate-like qualities for me in a good way. It can be a soporific (I have terrible insomonia). It can both soothe and stupefy me. The Motorik beat in certain Kosmische music can produce a trance like state in me. My Norman family name is de Masse, and I like to say that music is the opiate de la Masses (of the Masse's). And now without trepidation, I give to you Opium: And discussion is good for the soul, so I also suggest responding to to other people's topics and post more responses. Thinking about and caring about what other people are saying and feeling can be beneficial to one's mental state. I'm glad to see you posting responses (you certainly can be articulate) -- one thing one will find is that people will be less likely to want to put effort into responding to someone if he/she doesn't seem to show interest in what other people are writing. Depressed or not, happy posting. By the way, I wrote a long response in you mental health thread, I have my problems, but it felt too self-indulgent and a little sanctimonious so I opted not to post. I was raised to try to keep a stiff upper lip and to keep my pecker up (problem is Xanax doesn't mix well with Viagra). Edited by Logan - January 22 2018 at 13:19 |
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Just a fanboy passin' through.
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BaldJean
Prog Reviewer Joined: May 28 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10377 |
Posted: January 22 2018 at 19:34 |
if any music is an opiate then it is Tangerine Dream's "Zeit". i love the album, but it puts you in about the same state as an opium trip
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mechanicalflattery
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 08 2016 Location: Seattle Status: Offline Points: 1056 |
Posted: January 22 2018 at 20:40 |
I've been reading through Plato's The Republic recently, and I'm strongly reminded here of the section where Socrates dictates which kinds of music should and should not be allowed among the populace, especially the military. I'm not sure that arguments for certain music being improper for personal/mental/social/spiritual/intellectual development have really improved since then. I've met dumbasses into classical and fantastically intelligent PhD holding individuals hugely fascinated by Rihanna. It's how you work with the music, not the music itself, that matters.
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Logan
Forum & Site Admin Group Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: @ wicker man Status: Offline Points: 32668 |
Posted: January 22 2018 at 20:51 |
Love to reread Plato's Republic. It had a big effect on me despite some of the questionable Socratic ideals. I don't remember the P.R. quote, but I like to say that the first step on the road to wisdom is the recognition of one's own ignorance.
Agreed. Though I didn't mention the name, I had that album in mind when writing my post. Zanov, also, can have an interesting Opiate-like effect: Even "Shine on You Crazy Diamond" can do it for me -- but maybe because I have "tripped" to it in my youth so I sort of have flashbacks to that. Edited by Logan - January 22 2018 at 20:52 |
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Just a fanboy passin' through.
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Mortte
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 11 2016 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 5538 |
Posted: January 22 2018 at 22:17 |
I believe Chili Peppers was also the one who get stickers in their covers. I still love their albums from s/t to By the Way. But I am just a simple guy.
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Man With Hat
Collaborator Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team Joined: March 12 2005 Location: Neurotica Status: Offline Points: 166178 |
Posted: January 22 2018 at 23:09 |
Heroin
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Mortte
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 11 2016 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 5538 |
Posted: January 22 2018 at 23:17 |
"Heroin, itīs my wife and itīs my life"
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Mascodagama
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Posted: January 23 2018 at 06:23 |
I rather liked Morphine, a nineties band whose singer/bassist Mark Sandman died tragically young (of a heart attack whilst on stage with the band). Their murky sonorities did have a hypnagogic feel to them that made the band name seem quite apt.
Edited by Mascodagama - January 23 2018 at 06:29 |
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Peter
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Posted: January 23 2018 at 07:57 |
Can - Future Days
classic Tangerine Dream |
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