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Jorris ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: April 29 2018 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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I recently got into prog. I really like bands like Yes, Rush and Genesis. But I want to expand my collection. I saw Jethro Tull and I was really interested. But where to start. I see people like a Aqualong but I don't know if that is the best album to start with. Do you guys have any reccomendations? Really glad you can help me.
Also which forum is dedecated for these kind of questions? Thanks, Joris
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 19771 |
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Hey, Jorris, you're in the right forum. Head over to YouTube and check out the albums Thick As a Brick, Minstrel in the Gallery and Songs from the Wood. One (hopefully all) of those will do the trick. SFTW is my favorite album, and I also love the two that immediately follow it: Heavy Horses and Stormwatch.
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Frenetic Zetetic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 09 2017 Location: Now Status: Offline Points: 9233 |
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Welcome! I started with Thick as A Brick and worked my way outwards in both directions.
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terramystic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 02 2005 Status: Offline Points: 781 |
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I started with Songs from the Wood.
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stand up ,thick as a brick then crest of a knave
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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13430 |
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Aqualung is their best album, and although not necessarily "prog" in a conventional sense it does set up the next albums Thick as a Brick and A Passion Play nicely from a thematic and conceptual standpoint.
Depending on your musical tastes, since the 1968 release This Was predates prog, it is interesting to hear the band go from Cream-like blues rock through a transformative compositional change on the excellent Stand Up, which sets the stage for the folksy hard rock of Benefit and Aqualung, straight into prog on TAAB and APP. No other band had such an historic metamorphosis from the late 60s to the early 70s like Tull. Not even Floyd really "changed" overly much through that time. The Tull evolution is what really sets it apart from other bands of the period.
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From a prog perspective I suggest you dive into Thick As A Brick and then either go to earlier Aqualung or later Songs From The Wood. After those three, I'd go for Heavy Horses, Minstrel in the Gallery and then to Stand Up. After that, if you're still with the band, then you'd be free to go across whole discography and pick out the ones you like and the ones that do less for you. The transition from the blues rock of This Was, to folk rock, prog rock and then a more modern style is an interesting journey in itself - in fact a chronological order is an option, but stick to it to see the transitions in full.
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ProgMetaller2112 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 08 2012 Location: Pacoima,CA,USA Status: Offline Points: 3150 |
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Aqualung is the best start then go to Thick As a Brick
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I'd say start with Aqualung and Thick as a Brick then checkout at least one album from their early hard rock phase (This Was, Stand Up, Benefit), one of their "theatrics" (A Passion Play, Minstrel in the Gallery) and one of their late-70s pastoral albums (Songs from the Wood, Heavy Horses (my favourite))
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Walkscore ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 16 2017 Location: Toronto, Canada Status: Offline Points: 231 |
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I echo all these recommendations. But I would also urge you not to overlook War Child. Shorter tunes, but many gems there too. (e.g. Skating Away... is an awesome Tull song, and Sea Lion, etc)
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 19711 |
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I would say start with Aqualung and then Thick as a brick. After that songs from the wood and maybe a passion play and minstrel in the gallery.
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Often enough I like to strat getting to know bands with Live albums, because that way I can know a good selection of (hopefully) their best songs, and if I'm interested enough to get their discography later on I won't be hesitant about having so much repeated songs as if I got a best of album instead. Jethro Tull is one of those bands in which I think this works wonderfully, so I would say "Live - Bursting Out" and then "Live at Montreux" (though there's lots of complaints about his diminished vocals by the time of Montreux, but it doesn't really bother me very much). In general, most of my favourite songs in my favourite versions come from live albums, particularly these two... I feel they got more power and were further developed to the point I find the studio ones incomplete or too tame. As for studio albums, yeah, it would have to be "Aqualung", "Thick as a Brick", and "Songs from the Wood".
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HackettFan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2012 Location: Oklahoma Status: Offline Points: 7951 |
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Aqualung, then Stand Up, then Thick As a Brick, then Benefit, then Minstrel in the Gallery, then only you can say.
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Man With Hat ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team Joined: March 12 2005 Location: Neurotica Status: Offline Points: 166183 |
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I'll vote for Thick As A Brick (I always prefer jumping right into the thick of it, no pun intended).
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Junges ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February 19 2006 Location: Brazil Status: Offline Points: 646 |
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If you start in the 60s or 70s, it doesn't really matter. If you don't like an album, try another. There is no science of "how to get into a band".
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 47167 |
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I agree In fact two of my favorite JT album are Stand Up (1969, from their early days) and Roots to Branches (1995, from their later days)
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I recommend you start with a video experience.
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Mortte ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: November 11 2016 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 5538 |
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I really recommend to start with Songs From the Wood. Quite proggy, but easier to get in than for example Thick as a Brick. Also it already have some modern taste in it. Of course Thick as a Brick is their greatest album.
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This is a good way to go. I wholeheartedly recommend Songs From the Wood early in your JT adventure though, and if you like that, go for Heavy Horses. |
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15683 |
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I heard Aqualung first and at the time it didn't tell me much (apart from the title track). Somehow I was too young for it (13 or 14) with a too restricted horizon, don't know. Now I appreciate it much more than I did in the beginning. So I may be an outlier but I wouldn't recommend that one to start. I still find it a bit disjointed, apart from some really great songs it features a number of styles that I don't connect to that well.
What got me into JT was Thick as a Brick, but also Heavy Horses, Stormwatch and even Broadsword and Beast had a more immediate appeal to me than Aqualung. I was looking for long complex compositions and instrumental flow at the time but as somebody who got into music in the early 80s I was also attracted to then "modern" keyboard sounds and some more compact but sharp songwriting. Obviously it depends on where you come from and what you're up for. Thinking it over, I find that Dellinger's approach through live albums (here Bursting Out) makes a lot of sense, and it was a good path that brought me to some other bands. |
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