Which Albums by Rush are real Prog Rock? And Why? |
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ProcolWho?
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There is no RUSH song that does not offend my ear.
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richardh
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^ Interesting, persoanlly I found them 'cold' and 'unemotional' when I first heard All The Worlds A Stage in 1977/78. I'm actually also not a great fan of Hemispheres, for my taste it's far too 'metal' although La Villa Strangiato could be one of the best prog instrumentals of all time. Quite remarkable track and the main thing that saves the album for me. I'm a Rush fan nowadays and that is very much for all their music including the 90's and 00's hard rock style albums which I enjoy a lot.
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Hrychu
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IMO Rush was never this sorta "angular" "geeky prog" kinda band like ELP, mid 70's Zappa or I dunno, Balletto di Bronzo or something. They had a much more melodic vibe.
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Cristi
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What is "real prog"? (insert facepalm emoji/emoticon/meme)
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TexasKing
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I think CTTH is proggy but not real prog. It's too short, a sing-along song, it's a radio hit-type song and I don't find it an authentic Rush song (some other rock bands from the 70's could come up with a song like that). |
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Rush's greatest run was from 2112 through Moving Pictures. All those albums are firmly in the Progressive Rock camp. It is with those run of albums that went either Platinum or Multi-platinum in the case of 2112 and Moving Pictures that Rush is listed as a Prog Rock band and why the went into the ROHF as a Prog band.
Also, Caress of Steel, Signals and Grace Under Pressure fall more into the Prog Rock camp than not. That's 8 albums that are Prog Rock albums. The other albums by Rush can be debated whether they are Prog or in some cases, such as their debut album are definitely not. |
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Dapper~Blueberries
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I am of a firm believer that all Rush album are prog rock to some extent, but some are certainly less prog than other. Their 80s records are a good showcase of this. Aside from Permanent Waves and Moving Pictures, their 80s output certainly more prog in the sense the group is trying new things by utilizing synths and more introspective outputs, which I do not quite think is a bad thing they did. They obviously weren't going pop in the 80s, though certainly a lot more accessible than they ever were. The only really non-prog album Rush has made I think is Hold Your Fire, but that record still has some nice moments of progressive ideas.
Also replying a bit to TexasKing, I am sorry but Closer To The Heart is a prog song. You cannot just add so many riffs, jams, and solos into a 2 minute song and not call it at least prog related. Edited by Dapper~Blueberries - February 01 2024 at 11:01 |
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richardh
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I know I shouldn't but I'm bored.. So Trees is prog but Closer To The Heart isn't? No comment on the 3 minute Circumstances then? A Passage To Bangkok and Tears are 'standard rock', seriously?! Moving Pictures is 'mostly AOR' is a crazy statement In general Rush's best albums are 2112 to Moving Pictures but neither Signals and Grace Under Pressure have any weak moments. I believe the sheer amount of constant touring and recording plus the tragedies that occured in Peart's life eventually slowed them down. But then by that time they had nothing left to prove and equally nothing to apologise for. Even though they more or less stopped doing anything prog after about Presto (aside from Clockwork Angels) they have a legacy that compares favourably with all the legendary prog bands.
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Grumpyprogfan
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^Or...
We are the priests Of the temple of real Prog |
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We are merely Rusheologians, performers and portrayers!
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Take your time over it now, you don't want it to be rushed! |
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which reminds me, I must blow the dust off my copy of Volume 1 and inspect it for termite damage..
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A Study of RUSHology.
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Jared
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Rush's progginess or lack of.... has there been any other subject that has been discussed as much on this site over the past 20 years? I'm sure it would make an excellent doctoral thesis..
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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^Maybe "more fool me" isn't a prog song but imo "I know what I like" qualifies. I stand by what I said. I remember asking a guy at a prog festival if he thought "wonderous stories" and IKWIL are prog and he said they were. I suppose we can all argue until the cows come home as to whether they or other songs are prog. I guess it ultimately it depends on our own interpretation and opinion on what makes something prog.
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Nitpicking like this, I can list songs that are not prog from all the prog-greats.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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^Come on. Madrigal is more of a prog song than Cinderella Man. It seems that maybe you have fallen into the trap that many people have which is thinking that a song has to be complex to be prog.
Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - January 31 2024 at 09:30 |
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TexasKing
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Rush is much less PROG than Yes, Genesis and King Crimson but much more prog than Pink Floyd.
My observation on the progness of Rush output: Fly by Night - not a prog album, only By-Tor is prog Caress of Steel - half prog (two epics are prog) 2112 - half prog (a side two is not prog but standard rock) A Farewell to Kings - mostly prog (Closer to the heart and Madrigal are not prog songs) Hemispheres - pure prog Permanent Waves - partially prog (Jacob's ladder and Natural science are prog) Moving Pictures - mostly AOR, two prog songs (The Camera Eye and YYZ) Synth-era albums have some proggy moments but they are not really prog. Snakes & arrows and Clockwork angels have some proggy songs, but they're not real prog. None of their albums inbetween are prog or even proggy.
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Now now children remember one man’s prog isn’t necessarily another man’s prog? |
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