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Poll Question: Which music genre best describes Porcupine Tree?
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1 [2.78%]
0 [0.00%]
22 [61.11%]
4 [11.11%]
1 [2.78%]
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    Posted: October 24 2019 at 09:01
Psychedelic Heavy Rock.
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^Oh I see. Well, like every other prog or band in general they aren't always going to be everyone's cup of tea. I personally think it's an excellent album and one of the best prog albums from the 90's for sure but that's ultimately just my opinion just like when someone says any album is one of the best. 
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No, I haven't heard the "Jurassic Shift" album. I've never listened to any of Ozric Tentacles albums all the way through. I'm more of a Hawkwind fan when it comes to Space Rock. Smile
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

A band that I personally think would be more interesting to analyze would be Ozric Tentacles because their sound didn't change as much as PT's did but have different sounds(and styles) on the same track or album. 
I've always considered Ozric Tentacles to be a Space Rock band.

Have you ever heard Jurassic Shift? That one has elements of prog, psych and fusion. There's even a little bit of a grunge element on there. The others I have heard were similar. Apparently some stuff even has some techno and electronica elements too but I'm admittedly only familiar with a small subset of their catalog. Nonetheless I feel they are more than just a space rock band but I don't deny they have that element as well. 
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

A band that I personally think would be more interesting to analyze would be Ozric Tentacles because their sound didn't change as much as PT's did but have different sounds(and styles) on the same track or album. 
I've always considered Ozric Tentacles to be a Space Rock band.
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Originally posted by friso friso wrote:

'progressive alternative';
Porcupine Tree, Steven Wilson, Gazpacho, Radiohead, Muse, Riverside, Leprous, Alice in Chains


What about Airbag and The Pineapple Thief? Also, I like AIC a lot but never really considered them to be part of progressive music. Also, Muse not Muze. Wink


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'progressive alternative';
Porcupine Tree, Steven Wilson, Gazpacho, Radiohead, Muze, Riverside, Leprous, Alice in Chains
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A band that I personally think would be more interesting to analyze would be Ozric Tentacles because their sound didn't change as much as PT's did but have different sounds(and styles) on the same track or album. 

Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - October 23 2019 at 10:57
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Originally posted by friso friso wrote:

I think you could actually list a lot of bands in the 'progressive alternative' crossover that now fall between genres. Lots of progressive metal, heavy prog and crossover prog.
 
I'd probably need another poll to determine which bands fall within the Progressive Alternative' Crossover genre. Wink
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I think you could actually list a lot of bands in the 'progressive alternative' crossover that now fall between genres. Lots of progressive metal, heavy prog and crossover prog.
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PT ran the gauntlet from space/psychedelic to a combination of heavy prog and post prog (Radiohead inspired prog.) Take your pick, there's no wrong answer.

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No band that can clearly an comfortably be assigned to a single genre deserves to be called "progressive" - unless they started that genre...
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I think the ProgArchives system of assigning just one genre to an artist is ideal as it stands anyway. It's less complicated and far more practical than the multi-genre designations they use for each artist on AllMusic.com.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ PT is the definitive reason PA needs a multi-tag system where every album can be labeled accordingly. May it be so some distant day
 
That sounds like an excellent idea but it would require an enormous amount of work to categorise each album by genre individually, considering the HUGE size of the ProgArchives database.

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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:



 Here's some "Post Rock" for you from Porcupine Tree's "Voyager 34" album. Wink
 


it's psychedelic/space rock, very floydian. Big smile (Again, not post-rock...)
I know. That's why I put "Post Rock" in inverted commas. Wink
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:



 Here's some "Post Rock" for you from Porcupine Tree's "Voyager 34" album. Wink
 


it's psychedelic/space rock, very floydian. Big smile (Again, not post-rock...)
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Not really sure where I would put PT. I can make a case for a few different sub genres as I think you can for many prog bands. I also find some of the sub genres on the site to be a little subjective or even down right confusing. Many make sense, Jazz fusion, Folk Prog, Symphonic prog, prog metal are pretty self explanatory. Others are a little less clear. The difference between avent & eclectic prog for example. Seems like there are a lot of similarities between those two. Prog related & crossover prog is another one that seems somewhat subjective.  ( side note , Trains by PT playing in the background as I type this,  Sounds like ???- prog! ) Wink
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:




In the future, when you wanna make a poll, if you think some users may come up with something different, make the last option simply say "other".

 
Thanks for the tip about including "Other" as an option. I'll bear that in mind for future polls. Thumbs Up
 
Here's some "Post Rock" for you from Porcupine Tree's "Voyager 34" album. Wink
 


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Originally posted by TerLJack TerLJack wrote:

Is Yes- Close to the Edge = 90125?
Genesis- Selling England = Invisible Touch?
King Crimson- In the Court = Beat?
Ambrosia- debut = One Eighty?
Be-Bop Deluxe- Modern Music = Drastic Plastic?
Queen- Queen II = Hot Space?
Utopia- TR's Utopia = Deface the Music?
Rush- debut = Signals?
Japan- Adolescent Sex = Tin Drum?
Sometimes they do not even sound like the same band.
Right you are so let's put them in the Alternative Rock/Indie Rock/Art Rock/Experimental Rock/Heavy Prog/Neo-Prog/Post-Progressive/Progressive Metal/Psychedelic Rock/Space Rock genre. Wink (Now that really is silly, isn't?)

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Is Yes- Close to the Edge = 90125?
Genesis- Selling England = Invisible Touch?
King Crimson- In the Court = Beat?
Ambrosia- debut = One Eighty?
Be-Bop Deluxe- Modern Music = Drastic Plastic?
Queen- Queen II = Hot Space?
Utopia- TR's Utopia = Deface the Music?
Rush- debut = Signals?
Japan- Adolescent Sex = Tin Drum?
Sometimes they do not even sound like the same band.
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