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Originally posted by Foxprog Foxprog wrote:

Excellent!

For me VDGG is the "essential" prog band along with Genesis, King Crimson, Yes and Pink Floyd. It might take a few listens before fully understanding it. But once you do, you will be eternally grateful.
I have most of the early albums by Genesis, Yes & Pink Floyd, but I only like the first album by King Crimson.
 
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Which albums have to listened from KC?
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Originally posted by Foxprog Foxprog wrote:

Excellent!

For me VDGG is the "essential" prog band.

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

*long sigh of despair*
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Originally posted by Barbu Barbu wrote:

Originally posted by Foxprog Foxprog wrote:

Excellent!

For me VDGG is the "essential" prog band.

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

*long sigh of despair*


You obviously haven't tried hard enough :)
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Originally posted by Foxprog Foxprog wrote:

Which albums have to listened from KC?
King Crimson's second album "In the Wake of Poseidon wasn't bad, but I just couldn't get into their third album Lizard at all. That album put me right off King Crimson altogether. I've heard snippets of Larks' Tongues in Aspic and Starless and Bible Black but they were far too experimental for my tastes.
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You should check out "Red" at least once, it's quite remarkable and less experimental than "Lark's". You might not like Providence but the others might click :)

Also "The least we can do..." and "H to he..." are less experimental than "Pawn Hearts", so you should start with those two (if you are interested in VDGG) Smile
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Goodye Yellow Brick Road and Your Song by Elton John are favourite of mine so is original harphishcord version of Skylyne Pdgeon from Empty Sky (1969)
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Originally posted by Foxprog Foxprog wrote:

You should check out "Red" at least once, it's quite remarkable and less experimental than "Lark's". You might not like Providence but the others might click :)

Also "The least we can do..." and "H to he..." are less experimental than "Pawn Hearts", so you should start with those two (if you are interested in VDGG) Smile
Thanks. I will do. Smile
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My favorite is "The Deadly Dream Of Freedom" by Triumvirat.
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A curse upon the heads of those who seek their fortunes in a lie. The truth is always waiting when there's nothing left to try. - Colin Henson, Jade Warrior (Now)
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Originally posted by Foxprog Foxprog wrote:

You should check out "Red" at least once, it's quite remarkable and less experimental than "Lark's". You might not like Providence but the others might click :)

Also "The least we can do..." and "H to he..." are less experimental than "Pawn Hearts", so you should start with those two (if you are interested in VDGG) Smile
I listened to Van Der Graaf Generator's "Pawn Hearts" album for the first time last night, but it was a little too experimental for my tastes, and it even sounded discordant in some places. I may listen to the album again though just to see if it grows on me, and it's sparked my interest enough to want to listen to the two more approachable albums that preceded "Pawn Hearts".
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Foxprog Foxprog wrote:

You should check out "Red" at least once, it's quite remarkable and less experimental than "Lark's". You might not like Providence but the others might click :)

Also "The least we can do..." and "H to he..." are less experimental than "Pawn Hearts", so you should start with those two (if you are interested in VDGG) Smile
I listened to Van Der Graaf Generator's "Pawn Hearts" album for the first time last night, but it was a little too experimental for my tastes, and it even sounded discordant in some places. I may listen to the album again though just to see if it grows on me, and it's sparked my interest enough to want to listen to the two more approachable albums that preceded "Pawn Hearts".
 

Godbluff is the most enjoyable VDGG album imo

Red is an absolute classic. I even bought the 24 disc box set The Road To Red about 3 years ago although I still haven't got through it Big smile
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I listened to Van Der Graaf Generator's "Pawn Hearts" album for the first time last night, but it was a little too experimental for my tastes, and it even sounded discordant in some places. I may listen to the album again though just to see if it grows on me, and it's sparked my interest enough to want to listen to the two more approachable albums that preceded "Pawn Hearts".
 
It is a commonly acknowledged aspect of Van der Graaf Generator music that it can be difficult to get into. Even the PA biography of Van der Graaf Generator says:  
 
Quote For lot of us their music has proven to be very hard to get into, but it is even harder to live without it once you've acquired a taste for the band. The way the band combines the very personal with the abstract sound of progression creates a fascination that lives on and the way Peter HAMMILL puts his soul in the music seems to be untouchable for other musicians.
 
Yes, I found a number of their albums took several listens before I could appreciate the beauty contained within the music. However, I did fall in love with "Pawn Hearts" the first time I heard it.
 
 
 
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For me one of the best is Australian Blackfeathers "Seasons of Change" (arranged with more acoustic guitar and strings)

or version by Fraternity (emphasis on hammonds)
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by Foxprog Foxprog wrote:

You should check out "Red" at least once, it's quite remarkable and less experimental than "Lark's". You might not like Providence but the others might click :)

Also "The least we can do..." and "H to he..." are less experimental than "Pawn Hearts", so you should start with those two (if you are interested in VDGG) Smile
I listened to Van Der Graaf Generator's "Pawn Hearts" album for the first time last night, but it was a little too experimental for my tastes, and it even sounded discordant in some places. I may listen to the album again though just to see if it grows on me, and it's sparked my interest enough to want to listen to the two more approachable albums that preceded "Pawn Hearts".



Ahh! You took the hardest one first but glad you did :) Give it a few more spins and it might grow on you. Next one "Red"...
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Originally posted by HarryAngel746 HarryAngel746 wrote:

For me one of the best is Australian Blackfeathers "Seasons of Change" (arranged with more acoustic guitar and strings)

or version by Fraternity (emphasis on hammonds)


Blackfeather's version of "Season of Change" is *the* version......it still sends shivers down the spine....brings back so many memories...it was a big hit down here in Oz. Such a beautiful song and rendition. Fraternity's version is not up to Blackfeather's.

Incidentally, the lead singer of Fraternity is a young Bon Scott (i.e. future AC/DC vocalist).
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Thanks! I wasn't 100% sure which version was original. I agree that the Fraternity's version is a bit clumsy Smile.
I have a feeling that this song has something like that I knew this motif earlier from some prehistoric times, before memory appeared.
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